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		<title>Shower Waterproofing Manuals</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve finally gone and done something worthwhile! Well, that&#8217;s a matter of opinion, I guess, namely mine. I have written complete manuals on properly building and waterproofing your shower utilizing the different waterproofing methods. Each manual describes a specific method so you don&#8217;t get bogged down with a bunch of information you don&#8217;t need for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ebook1.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1829 alignright" title="Building a traditionally waterproofed shower for tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ebook1-267x300.png" alt="Building a traditionally waterproofed shower for tile" width="267" height="300" /></a>I&#8217;ve finally gone and done something worthwhile! Well, that&#8217;s a matter of opinion, I guess, namely mine. I have written complete manuals on properly building and waterproofing your shower utilizing the different waterproofing methods.</p>
<p>Each manual describes a specific method so you don&#8217;t get bogged down with a bunch of information you don&#8217;t need for your chosen project. Not sure which method you want? Not sure which methods are available? Didn&#8217;t know there were different methods? Start with the free manual here: <a href="http://floorelf.com/waterproof-shower">Shower Waterproofing Manual</a>. That will help you decide which one you want to use based on time, skill and cost.</p>
<p>Once you figure that out you can get the manual that is specific to your particular project. Although these are all mostly completed it&#8217;s a whole process to get them ready for you guys. It&#8217;s difficult to describe but it includes half a watermelon, platypus eyelashes and a full moon &#8211; weird, right? Let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;ve been writing the damn things for close to two years &#8211; it&#8217;s not a short process.</p>
<p>Anyway, I do have two of them all finished up, uploaded and ready for you to devour!</p>
<p>I have the complete shower manual utilizing the traditional waterproofing method for walls and floors. This will walk you through the entire process for complete shower floor and wall building and waterproofing. If you are going to have a tiled shower floor and walls and need to construct the entire thing &#8211; this is the one you need. You can get it here: <a href="http://floorelf.com/how-to-build-a-traditional-shower-for-tile-the-instruction-manual">Complete traditional shower waterproofing method </a>(Price goes up next week!)</p>
<p>And I have the manual using the traditional method for just your shower walls. If you already have a tub or pre-formed base (like acrylic or Swanstone) this is the one you need. You can get it here:<a href="http://floorelf.com/traditional-waterproofing-for-your-tub-or-shower-walls"> Traditional waterproofing for your shower walls</a></p>
<p>You can always just click the yellow highlighted &#8216;Library&#8217; tab at the top to see what&#8217;s currently available. If you have any questions just feel free to ask them in any of the comment sections on the site. I always answer them &#8211; I&#8217;m just super cool like that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I will add the new manuals to the library section as I finish them up.</p>
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		<title>Location of Weep Holes in Tile Installations</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another request from one of my readers, this time concerning weep holes. As you may know I answer every question I&#8217;m asked here on my site when I sober up get home from work. I have tried to explain in the comments section several times where to create weep holes in a tub or shower [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Another request from one of my readers, this time concerning weep holes. As you may know I answer every question I&#8217;m asked here on my site when I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">sober up</span> get home from work. I have tried to explain in the comments section several times where to create weep holes in a tub or shower (acrylic base) tile installation and now realize it&#8217;s a difficult thing to do with words.</p>
<p>So when Kurt asked me to clarify exactly where they go a stroke of genius hit me! (Yeah, I&#8217;m slow sometimes) I have pictures. Well, not exactly pictures of the weep holes themselves, but I can at least let you know where they are.</p>
<p>When you have a tub which does not have specific spaces for a weep hole you need to &#8216;create&#8217; them in your caulk line. Let me back up here a second and explain what weep holes are and why you need them.</p>
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<p>A weep hole is basically an open space which allows moisture that makes its way behind the tile a space from which to dissipate. This is the spot that moisture can run out. When moisture gets behind your tile it will always end up at the bottom of your wall (tile installation). When it gets there it needs some place to go &#8211; to get out from behind the tile and into the tub or shower basin. That&#8217;s what the weep hole is.</p>
<p>Some tubs, and most acrylic shower basins, have these built into them. There is a spot about 3/4&#8243; long that dips down from the plane of the edge and back up. It&#8217;s a dip in the edge of the tub or shower basin. When equipped with these built-in weep holes &#8211; DO NOT FILL THEM WITH CAULK! Everyone does that &#8211; they are there for a reason and no one seems to know what it is. They are weep holes. If you caulk them in it defeats the purpose of them &#8211; that will seal in the moisture.</p>
<p>If the moisture is sealed in behind the tile it has no place to dissipate and will simply sit there. Beyond that, the level of that moisture will continue to build with every use. The moisture cannot dissipate at the same rate that is gets back there. That&#8217;s gonna lead to a problem. You need weep holes to eliminate the moisture.<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_tub.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1385" title="Weep hole location in for a tub" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_tub-300x225.jpg" alt="Weep hole location in for a tub" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>When you caulk or silicone the change of plane between the tile and tub you should leave an open space &#8211; a space without caulk &#8211; in each side wall about an inch out from the back wall. If you click on that little bitty picture to the right you will see two pretty pink lines on it &#8211; that&#8217;s where those spots are.</p>
<p>Each of these spots are about an inch long (this doesn&#8217;t need to be exact) and contain no grout, caulk or silicone &#8211; they are simply open space. These are your weep holes.</p>
<p>These spaces will allow moisture to dissipate. These do not need to be the lowest spots on the tub. In other words, if your tub is not entirely level and those spots are not the lowest, it doesn&#8217;t matter. The water will end up there and run out &#8211; it is the only space to release the pressure the water will build up. It&#8217;s a whole physics thing and I haven&#8217;t had enough <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi to properly explain it &#8211; but that&#8217;s what happens. And yes, you can put them wherever you want, that&#8217;s simply where I put them.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_shower.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1386" title="Weep hole location in for a shower basin" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_shower-300x225.jpg" alt="Weep hole location in for a shower basin" width="300" height="225" /></a>When you have an acrylic or fiberglass shower basin without built-in weep holes the same technique applies. Depending on how your tile and shower door lay out you may choose to put the weep holes toward the front of the basin, entirely up to you.</p>
<p>If you click the photo of the shower to the right, and ignore the fuzzy toilet seat cover,  you will see the two pretty pink lines in the back as well as pretty blue lines toward the front. That&#8217;s where I put them when I don&#8217;t put them in the back. They sometimes look better toward the front if there is a shower door there &#8211; the frame will make the weep holes less noticeable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it &#8211; longer than I expected but much easier than trying to explain with just words. If you have a question or just need something clarified do not hesitate to let me know! My blog is here to help you and the fact that I do this stuff every day will, at times, blind me to certain basic things. I do a lot of this stuff without even thinking about it and don&#8217;t realize that what is basic to me is not basic to you. If you want a post about a specific subject just let me know in the comment section of any of my posts or shoot me an email at <a href="mailto:Roger@FloorElf.com">Roger@FloorElf.com</a>. Or, you know, send up smoke signals from your dogs back &#8211; he may have just burst into flames again. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There you go Kurt, tell mom you win this one and she owes you a six-pack. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>UPDATE: I finally got off my ass and actually took some photos of weep holes in the silicone bead around a tub. These are what I&#8217;ve described above and can be used in either a tub or a shower base. There is one on each side of the tub towards the front.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5404.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1756" title="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5404-585x438.jpg" alt="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" width="585" height="438" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5405.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1757" title="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub 2" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5405-585x438.jpg" alt="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" width="585" height="438" /></a></p>
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		<title>How to Create a Shower Floor &#8211; Part 5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the rest . . . Once you have your entire perimeter done you simply need to pack deck mud into the rest of the base from the perimeter to the drain. Once again &#8211; beat the hell out of it. Seriously, pack it in there really well. The more dense your floor is the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Once you have your entire perimeter done you simply need to pack deck mud into the rest of the base from the perimeter to the drain. Once again &#8211; beat the hell out of it. Seriously, pack it in there really well. The more dense your floor is the better. You need to ensure that the line of the floor is straight from the wall to the drain all the way around without any major humps or dips. It takes time and patience &#8211; use both. This step is critical since this is the substrate your tile will be installed upon.</p>
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<dt><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/CIMG1379.jpg"><img title="Completed shower mud bed" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/CIMG1379-150x150.jpg" alt="Completed shower mud bed" width="150" height="150" /></a></dt>
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<p>Once you get the remainder of the deck mud packed into the shower and have it correctly packed and leveled just let it set for at least 12 hours, 24 would be better. Really, leave it alone. There is something about a freshly packed mud bed that makes people want to pick at it &#8211; it&#8217;s alluring &#8211; and a bit disturbing. But you need to leave it alone. So quit poking at it.</p>
<p>After it sets for about 12 hours you can fine tune it, so to speak, if you need to. Any un-flat spots can be scraped, rubbed, or sanded down to flatten them out. You can use regular sandpaper for this &#8211; really. Just make sure you have a flat surface from the wall to the drain. FLAT &#8211; not level. You want this surface absolutely flat.</p>
<p>If you have not yet done so you can now install your moisture barrier and backerboards. Now that you have a large waterproof box you are ready to install your tile and make it look all pretty. The hard part is finished. As with any proper tile installation the underlying substrates are the most important. Take your time with the preparation, it is imperative. Without proper preparation any tile installation is doomed to fail.</p>
<p>And your dog may burst into flames.</p>
<h2>Need More Information?</h2>
<p>I now have manuals describing the complete process for you from bare wall studs all the way up to a completely waterproof shower substrate for your tile. If you are tiling your walls and floor you can find that one here: <a href="http://floorelf.com/how-to-build-a-traditional-shower-for-tile-the-instruction-manual">Waterproof shower floor and wall manual</a>.</p>
<p>If you have a tub or pre-formed shower base and are only tiling the walls you can find that one here: <a href="http://floorelf.com/traditional-waterproofing-for-your-tub-or-shower-walls">Waterproof shower walls manual</a>.</p>
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