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		<title>How to Install Tile on a Shower Ceiling</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael has recently pointed out (a bit more eloquently than I would have) that I have indeed been a lazy bastard and have not yet written this post. Apparently people actually want to know how to do stuff I do &#8211; weird, right? So here you go &#8211; making your ceiling shiny. The main problem [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3761.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1197" title="Finished tiled shower ceiling" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3761-225x300.jpg" alt="Finished tiled shower ceiling" width="225" height="300" /></a>Michael has recently pointed out (a bit more eloquently than I would have) that I have indeed been a lazy bastard and have not yet written this post. Apparently people actually want to know how to do stuff I do &#8211; weird, right? So here you go &#8211; making your ceiling shiny.</p>
<p>The main problem people have with tiling a ceiling is getting the tile to stay where they put it. Believe me, I&#8217;ve had more than one tile fall on my noggin before I figured out what works. Since I&#8217;m relatively certain you aren&#8217;t very interested in what doesn&#8217;t work I&#8217;ll tell you what does, it saves headaches &#8211; literally.</p>
<p>You do not need a $75 bag of non-sag thinset to tile a ceiling. Non-sag thinset is basically just thinset that is sticky &#8211; it&#8217;s great stuff! It&#8217;s also expensive stuff. You can accomplish the same with the $15 bag of regular modified thinset.</p>
<p>Before you start hanging head-bashers (ceiling tile) you should, as always, have the substrate properly prepared. They do not always need to be waterproof. It&#8217;s a good idea and never hurts, but it isn&#8217;t always necessary. The photos of the shower I have here was in a small bathroom with limited ventilation so I waterproofed the ceiling as well.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3736.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1198" title="Burning thinset into the substrate" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3736-300x225.jpg" alt="Burning thinset into the substrate" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 1</p>
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<p>You should always ensure that the ceiling substrate is screwed onto the joists securely. There is a whole different set of physics at work on a horizontal surface that don&#8217;t apply to your vertical wall tile. Basically the entire weight of the full tile is pulling constantly on every inch of your tile. So you want whatever it is attached to securely fastened.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3737.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1199" title="Back of ceiling tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3737-300x225.jpg" alt="Back of ceiling tile" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 2</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3738.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1200" title="Thinset burned into the back of the tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3738-300x225.jpg" alt="Thinset burned into the back of the tile" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 3</p>
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<p>The first thing we&#8217;re gonna do is burn your thinset into the ceiling substrate &#8211; in this case it&#8217;s Kerdi. &#8216;Burning&#8217; thinset into something simply means using the flat side of your trowel and skim-coating the surface. I use the term a lot and that&#8217;s all it means. It fills all the areas of your substrate or tile (whatever you&#8217;re burning it into) and ensures that your thinset gets a good grab on whatever it is. Photo 1 shows about half of the ceiling with thinset burned into it.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3739.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1201" title="Thinset burned into the back of the tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3739-300x225.jpg" alt="Thinset burned into the back of the tile" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 4</p>
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<p>Photo 2 shows the back of one of the tiles we&#8217;re installing on the ceiling. See all those white lines? Those are actually raised just the tiniest bit so the back of the tile is not entirely smooth. You need to burn thinset onto the back of the tile. This will fill all those little squares and ensure that you have every area on the back of your tile adhering to thinset. You want to give it every square inch possible to grab onto that ceiling. Photos 3 and 4 show the tile with thinset burned into the back.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3740.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1202" title="Thinset combed onto the back of the tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3740-300x225.jpg" alt="Thinset combed onto the back of the tile" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 5</p>
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<p>Now you want to flip your trowel over and comb thinset onto the back of the tile. &#8220;Combing&#8221; thinset is another term I use often &#8211; it just means using the notched side of your trowel to, well, comb the little lines all in the same direction. That is &#8211; wait for it &#8211; Photo 5. You are not allowed to give me crap about my lack of photo labeling originality!</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3741.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1203" title="Bullseye combed into the back of the tile" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3741-300x225.jpg" alt="Bullseye combed into the back of the tile" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 6</p>
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<p>Now we get to the secret ingredient of ceiling tile installation &#8211; suction! All that thinset you combed into pretty little lines on the back of your tile? Take the end of your trowel and draw a bulls-eye in it like Photo 6 (believe it or not I was totally sober when I drew that &#8216;circle&#8217;). This bulls-eye is what keeps the tile from dropping on your head &#8211; because that hurts like hell. You should just take my word for it on that one without testing it for yourself.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3742.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1204" title="Tile stuck to ceiling of shower" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3742-300x225.jpg" alt="Tile stuck to ceiling of shower" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 7</p>
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<p>Now that you have your bulls-eye on the back of your tile go ahead and press it up onto your ceiling. (Photo 7) You want to push hard! You will actually hear air squishing out from inside that circle of thinset. This creates suction on the back of your tile and helps the tile stay put until the thinset cures. Once that happens it doesn&#8217;t matter what shape your thinset is on the back. The suction is needed to keep it there only until the thinset is cured.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3743.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1205" title="Ceiling partially tiled" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3743-300x225.jpg" alt="Ceiling partially tiled" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 8</p>
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<p>Continue to do this with the rest of your ceiling tile &#8211; every one of them, even the cut tiles. Draw the bulls-eye and stick it up, draw the bulls-eye and stick it up, etc., etc. To get them to stay in the proper spot with correct grout line size and lined up you can actually stick spacers in them (Photo 8 ) and use blue painter&#8217;s tape to keep them in the proper spot relative to one another. Just get a piece of tape about 3 -4 inches long and stick half of it to one tile then pull that tile slightly toward the one next to it and stick the tape to the next one. This will keep each tile tightly against the spacer and the tile next to it so your grout lines don&#8217;t go all wonky. (Did I just type &#8216;wonky&#8217;??? Jesus&#8230;)</p>
<p>You do not need to comb thinset onto the ceiling. I know that sounds counter-intuitive but simply burning the thinset into the substrate will give you plenty of grab onto the tile. You do not need to be concerned with 100% support as you would on a floor &#8211; no one will walk on your ceiling except Spiderman &#8211; he&#8217;s an ass sometimes. But he always pays to replace any ceiling tile he cracks.</p>
<p>Once you get all your tile up there you can still push them upward to get them flat with each other. Just lay your straight-edge across them as you would on a floor and make any adjustments needed. You do not want to pull them down to adjust them! You will lose the suction doing this. You want them really close to flat before you make any final adjustments.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3744.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1206" title="Completed tiled shower ceiling" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG3744-300x225.jpg" alt="Completed tiled shower ceiling" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 9</p>
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<p>You can see in Photo 9 (if you click on it) that there are two tiles that have slightly low corners which I still need to push up (they&#8217;re in the back row &#8211; the left corner of tile two and the entire front edge of tile four). Always push up to make adjustments. If your tile is way out of whack pull it down as you are setting them to add or take away thinset on the back. Do not pull them down once you have them all set and taped.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s how you get tile to stick on the ceiling with regular thinset. Easy. Okay, it&#8217;s easy for me. You may have a bit of a learning curve.</p>
<p>There are two basic designs for your ceiling tile. You can either line  up all the grout lines (which requires planning!) or you can install the  ceiling tile on-point (diagonally). This is simply a personal  preference &#8211; whichever you think would look better in your shower is the  one you should choose. The photos here have all the grout lines lined  up. If you do not install your ceiling tile diagonally please line up  your grout lines. If you don&#8217;t it looks like crap &#8211; that simple.</p>
<p>When installing tile on the ceiling you want to install the tile on the shower walls all the way up to the last row before the ceiling &#8211; as I&#8217;ve done in these photos. If you are lining up your grout lines rather than installing them diagonally you can then draw lines on your ceiling as guides to where your tiles should be. You don&#8217;t see lines in these photos because I use a laser &#8211; I&#8217;m Star Wars-ey like that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Once you get all your ceiling tile up then install your last row of wall tile. This will help hold all the tile around the edges as well. Be sure not to cut the last row of wall tile so that it barely fits in there! You need an expansion joint of about 1/16&#8243; and you do not want the pressure of a wall tile that is not short enough pushing one side of the ceiling tile up &#8211; the other side will push down &#8211; leverage, you know. Cut them about 1/16&#8243; shorter (plus your regular grout line size for the line below it)  than your measurement and use plastic wedges for that gap. And when you are finished &#8211; caulk or silicone that space, don&#8217;t grout it (unless you&#8217;re using epoxy grout).</p>
<p>The thinset I&#8217;m using is a basic modified thinset &#8211; nothing special.  It&#8217;s Versabond which is commonly sold at Home Depot. You should know  this, just to avoid confusion about an issue that is confusing enough  anyway. Schluter recommends UNmodified thinset for the Kerdi membrane.  If you choose to use modified thinset over the kerdi membrane it will  void your warranty! Just be aware of that.</p>
<p>I use modified for two reasons: 1) I prefer modified thinset for  everything &#8211; period. I give my own warranty to my customers which  happens to be longer than Schluter&#8217;s warranty anyway. I take that risk  and choose to do so &#8211; consciously. Should you choose to use modified  thinset over kerdi you should be aware of this. And no &#8211; it does not  create any problems that I have ever been aware of. Doesn&#8217;t mean it  won&#8217;t, just means I have never heard of it. And 2) I&#8217;m a rebel like  that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you have any questions at all please feel free to leave a comment and ask there &#8211; I&#8217;ll respond when I sober up! The gist of this post was shrunk down into a handy little four paragraph email for <a title="TileTips newsletter from the FloorElf" href="http://floorelf.com/tile-tips">TileTips</a>. You can click that link for more information or simply sign up in the box at the top right (under the pretty picture).</p>
<p>This post was brought to life by the suggestion of one of my readers in a comment. I really do read them! So I would like to thank Michael for kicking me in the ass and making me do something productive! My wife thanks you, too. If there is a particular subject you would like to see a post about just let me know &#8211; I&#8217;m a wealth of useless information.</p>
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		<title>How to Build a Niche for your Shower – Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Waterproofing Just look at you! Sitting there with a hole in the wall of your shower. What are we gonna do with you? If you do not happen to be sitting there with a hole in the shower of your wall read How to Build a Niche for your Shower &#8211; Part 1 and join [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><h3>Waterproofing</h3>
<p>Just look at you! Sitting there with a hole in the wall of your shower. What are we gonna do with you? If you do not happen to be sitting there with a hole in the shower of your wall read <a title="How to build a shower niche for tile" href="http://floorelf.com/how-to-build-a-niche-for-your-shower">How to Build a Niche for your Shower &#8211; Part 1</a> and join all the cool kids. We&#8217;ll wait&#8230;</p>
<p>There, now you&#8217;re one of the cool kids. Now take your <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi off that niche shelf so we can waterproof it. You have a couple of different methods with which you can accomplish this.</p>
<h3>Liquid Waterproofing Membranes</h3>
<p>These products are usually readily available and fairly simple to use. Products such as <a title="Installing Redgard on shower walls" href="http://floorelf.com/installing-redgard-on-shower-walls-for-tile">Custom&#8217;s Redgard</a> and Laticrete&#8217;s 9235, Hydroban, Hydrobarrier, etc. are all a thick, paint-like product which is brushed or rolled on to your substrate to waterproof it. You should only use these products if you are using a cementious backerboard as your shower substrate, they should not be used over regular drywall.</p>
<p>If you do have a cementious backerboard and choose to use one of these products for waterproofing simply follow the directions with whichever product you choose. Make absolutely certain that you get enough of the product in your niche to effectively waterproof it. The specifications vary but the best way I can explain it with a general rule would be the thickness of a credit card. Two or three good coats and you should have a layer on your substrate equivalent to the thickness of a credit card &#8211; that would be the correct amount.</p>
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<p>I use to waterproof niches this way until I started doing them with Kerdi. Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have any photos of a niche I&#8217;ve waterproofed with a liquid membrane. Just make certain you have every (literally) pinhole and corner covered very well. For the remainder of this post I will describe waterproofing your niche with&#8230;</p>
<h3>Schluter Kerdi</h3>
<p>Kerdi is now my preferred method of waterproofing a niche, bench, floor, wall, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi cooler, just about everything. For those unfamiliar with Kerdi it is the orange membrane on the shower walls in all my photos.  It is a thin polyethylene sheet which is installed directly to drywall and/or deck mud as well as other substrates, to make it waterproof. It is easily cut with scissors or a razor blade and can be folded, molded around curves, etc. and is installed directly to your substrate with regular (unmodified) thinset. A very versatile product.</p>
<p>While there are countless ways to utilize Kerdi to make your niche waterproof I am going to walk you through the way to cut and install it using one single sheet cut to size for your niche. I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">say</span> type there are countless ways because there is really no *particular* way which Kerdi must be installed. As long as every piece is overlapped 2&#8243; your substrate will be waterproof &#8211; no matter how many pieces you use. I just prefer a single piece cut to whatever size I need for the particular niche.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/niche_diagram1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-703" title="Measurement diagram for Kerdi niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/niche_diagram1-300x300.jpg" alt="Measurement diagram for Kerdi niche" width="300" height="300" /></a>So what size do you need for your niche? Here&#8217;s how to figure it out. The badly created diagram to the right explains it better than I can with words, you can click on it for a full-size version.</p>
<p>It is basically the width of your niche plus the depth (twice)  plus 2&#8243; (twice). See? I told you the diagram was easier.</p>
<p>For my 13 x 13 x 3 niche the measurement for the piece of Kerdi is 23 x 23. That is 13 + 3 + 3 + 2 + 2 = 23. Width + depth + depth + 2 + 2 = width of kerdi. The two inches (twice) is for the overlap on the outside of the niche. Remember I said kerdi needs to be overlapped 2&#8243; &#8211; that&#8217;s what that is. 2&#8243; on each side of the niche.</p>
<p>For a square niche both measurements will be the same. If you are creating a rectangular niche the width and height measurements will be different &#8211; they need to be figured differently.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2315a.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-704" title="Kerdi marked for shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2315a-225x300.jpg" alt="Kerdi marked for shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 1</p>
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<p>So here is my piece of kerdi for the niche. (Photo 1) You can see the measurements marked out. Take a ball-point pen or pencil and mark the measurement lines on the piece of kerdi.</p>
<p>At the bottom right of this piece I have marked the two partial cuts you need to make in every corner as well as the small square piece to remove. (Hold on to that piece &#8211; don&#8217;t throw it away)</p>
<p>Cutting each corner in this manner will allow you to fold the kerdi into your niche correctly and have an exact fit. Make sure you do not cut the lines too far, it&#8217;s always better to cut them a bit short and fine-tune it later.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2316.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-705 " title="Kerdi cut for niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2316-225x300.jpg" alt="Kerdi cut for niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 2 - Kerdi cut for niche</p>
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<p>In photo 2 the kerdi is cut to fit into the niche. After you get it all cut you should place it into your niche to ensure that it fits correctly. Just take the piece of kerdi and place it into your niche like photo 3 here:</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2317.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-706 " title="Dry-fitting the kerdi" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2317-225x300.jpg" alt="Dry-fitting the kerdi" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 3 - Dry-fitting the kerdi</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Take the inside corners &#8211; the ones that go into the back corners of your niche, and push them tightly into each corner. If measured correctly the corner marks on the inside square should fit perfectly. Wrap the top and bottom flaps over the niche and onto the wall outside.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The side flaps then get smoothed onto the sides and all the strange corner pieces you cut out will fold over the top and bottom flaps and outside to the wall with a 2&#8243; overlap. If fitted properly it should look like photo 4 here:</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2318.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-719" title="Correctly cut and fitted kerdi for niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2318-225x300.jpg" alt="Correctly cut and fitted kerdi for niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 4 - Correctly cut and fitted</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">At this point make any minor adjustments in the cuts or remove any excess you may have and make all the folds over all the corners to make sure they fit tightly.</p>
<p>After you ensure that the fit is correct its time to actually install it. Make sure you are comfortable with the way it fits and how it folds into there. Remove it and replace it a couple of times until you are sure you know how to do it. Once you start playing with the thinset it gets really messy very quickly if you need to make adjustments. I became a tile guy because I like playing in the mud &#8211; you may not.</p>
<p>Pull the piece out of there and comb your thinset into every corner and part of the niche and about 2 1/2&#8243; around the outside of the opening. You need to make sure you get every little bit covered. There must be full coverage behind the kerdi to make everything waterproof.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2319.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-722 " title="Combing thinset into and around niche for kerdi" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2319-225x300.jpg" alt="Combing thinset into and around niche for kerdi" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 5 - Combing thinset into and around niche for kerdi</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2320.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-721" title="Placing the kerdi into the niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2320-225x300.jpg" alt="Placing the kerdi into the niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 6 - Placing the kerdi into the niche</p>
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<p>When you go to place the kerdi into the niche you should fold in the sides as it will be placed into the wall. By folding the flaps over and in before placing the kerdi in it will help get it in the right place with a minimum of mess.</p>
<p>Start with the upper two corners in the back of the niche and press them in there very firmly. Make sure the line between those two corners follows the corner of the wall in the upper back of the niche. This is why you want to draw all the lines onto the kerdi &#8211; it will assist in getting the piece all lines up and in the space straight and square.</p>
<p>When you get those corners and the line between them pressed in firmly run your fingers down each side of the back of the niche to make sure the lines follow the niche. The lines you drew on your kerdi should follow the lines of the niche exactly.</p>
<p>Smooth out the entire interior of your niche starting with the center of the back wall and working outward. You need to make certain there are no air pockets behind your kerdi. Once the back wall is firmly in place start with the sides of the niche working from the back to the front wall again ensuring no air pockets remain.</p>
<p>Once the entire inside of the niche is smoothed down and flat start with the main flaps by using your index finger and thumb along the outside edge of the niche to get a nice, square transition around the corner like this:</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2321.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-724" title="Smoothing outside edges of niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2321-225x300.jpg" alt="Smoothing outside edges of niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 7 - Smoothing outside edges of niche</p>
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<p>If you look closely (or click on it for a full-size view) you will notice that only the first inch or so around the outside edges are completely smoothed down. You want to get that nice and tight before worrying about the remainder of those flaps.</p>
<p>After you get the large, main flaps installed and smoothed out flat you can start with the inside corner flaps. Just do one or two at a time and don&#8217;t rush through these &#8211; they are the point where your overlaps create the waterproof aspects. I do the two opposite corners at a time.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2322.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-725" title="Installing two of the corner flaps" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2322-225x300.jpg" alt="Installing two of the corner flaps" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 8 - Installing two of the corner flaps</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2323.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-723" title="Finish installing the remaining flaps" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2323-225x300.jpg" alt="Finish installing the remaining flaps" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Photo 9 - Finish installing the remaining flaps</p>
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<p>You want to take considerable time and great attention to detail while installing these flaps. The tighter the seams are together where they overlap the more dependable they will be. Kerdi is made waterproof by the overlapping and attaching of the seams &#8211; the tighter the better. Get it all smoothed out and tucked in and you will have an absolutely waterproofed hole in your shower wall. That is, after all, what you are building &#8211; a hole in the wall.</p>
<p>Now, if you are <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">anal retentive</span> attentive to detail like I am there will probably be one or two spots which may concern you for one reason or another. Remember those 2&#8243; square pieces you cut out of the corners that I told you not to throw away? There&#8217;s your patch. Just comb thinset over the spot that&#8217;ll keep you awake tonight and install the patch over it. The outside corners of your niche may be one of those areas.</p>
<p>See photo 9? It&#8217;s a frickin&#8217; mess. If you aren&#8217;t making a bit of a mess you aren&#8217;t doing it correctly. Yours should be a bigger mess than mine. Don&#8217;t be afraid of it &#8211; thinset is your friend. Besides it looks better after is sets &#8211; see:</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2332.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-726" title="Finished waterproof shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2332-225x300.jpg" alt="Finished waterproof shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Finished</p>
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<p>If you do it the right way you will never have to worry about leaks, standing water or any other fun problems associated with an improperly built hole in the wall. When done correctly you will end up with an absolutely waterproof niche in which to store your rubber ducky! See:</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2513.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-733" title="Niche for your rubber ducky" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2513-225x300.jpg" alt="Niche for your rubber ducky" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Thought I was joking, huh?</p>
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<p>You thought I was joking about the rubber ducky, didn&#8217;t you? I wasn&#8217;t. I build showers &#8211; I like rubber duckies.</p>
<p>In my next post I will describe various ways you can place tile in your waterproofed niche for maximum rubber ducky storage.</p>
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		<title>How to Build a Niche for your Shower &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This four part series describes methods to create a niche in your shower wall for tile. Please read through all four parts before starting. Your layout dictates the size and placement of your niche. You need all this information before making a hole in your wall! Or don&#8217;t &#8211; it isn&#8217;t my shower, eh? Framing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><h4>This four part series describes methods to create a niche in your shower wall for tile. Please read through all four parts before starting. Your layout dictates the size and placement of your niche. You need all this information before making a hole in your wall! Or don&#8217;t &#8211; it isn&#8217;t my shower, eh? <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif' alt=':whistle:' class='wp-smiley' /> </h4>
<h3><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2195.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-657" title="How to build a built in shower niche / shelf" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2195-225x300.jpg" alt="How to build a built in shower niche / shelf" width="225" height="300" /></a>Framing</h3>
<p>A shower niche, shelf, cubby, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi storage, whatever you want to call it is one of the most requested add-ons for any showers I build. After all, everyone needs a place to store the important stuff &#8211; like your rubber ducky, as well as the unimportant stuff like soap and shampoo. So being the super-cool, quirky, lovable (with a healthy dose of jackassery) guy that I am &#8211; I&#8217;m gonna show you how to build one.</p>
<p>To the left you will see a photo of a niche with a shelf &#8211; we&#8217;re not gonna build that one. It&#8217;s just there to show you what you can do with the technique I am describing. I will explain how to do that in the last part of this series.</p>
<p>With any shower niche there are a couple of details you should pay attention to which will make it look like it belongs there rather than something you looked at drunk one night and thought &#8220;Hey! Let&#8217;s cut a hole in the shower wall so I can put my rubber ducky in there.&#8221; That&#8217;s not really a good look &#8211; rubber ducky or not.</p>
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<p>One of the most important things I always do is line up the top and bottom (and sides if possible) with the grout lines in the field tile. The field tile is just the main tile on your shower wall. In doing this you keep the flow of the shower consistent and the niche doesn&#8217;t look like an afterthought &#8211; I hate that.</p>
<p>The way I do this is to actually install part of the field tile up to that point then I cut my niche out of the wall. This ensures you fall exactly on a grout line and don&#8217;t miss it by 1/4&#8243; because you miscalculated. So, you need to have your wall all prepped and ready and some tile already installed before we start with the niche.</p>
<p>Before you start installing tile there are a couple of things you need to do. As you are preparing your walls for tile with backerboard, drywall and Kerdi, elastomeric liquid topical waterproofing membrane (No, I didn&#8217;t have my pinky in the air as I typed that. It&#8217;s just liquid membrane like Redgard) or whatever waterproofing method you&#8217;ve chosen, you need to write down the measurements to the inside and outside of the two studs between which you plan to install your niche.</p>
<p>Your niche needs to be placed between two wall studs. These are (normally) 14 1/2&#8243; apart so assuming you have 12&#8243; or 13&#8243; tiles you can build a niche the size of one full tile wide. If you want one like the photo above it will be one tile wide and two high. Write those measurements down because once you get your walls up and ready to cut the niche out you need to know exactly where to cut.</p>
<p>If you have unusually placed studs (insert lame joke here) you will need to frame out the sides of the niche before covering them up with your wall substrate. Do not frame the top and bottom, only the sides. The top and bottom will be framed after we figure out exactly where they need to be placed and that happens after you already have some tile installed.</p>
<p>If you do end up framing it you need to add an inch to the measurement. If you have 12&#8243; tiles make the studs 13&#8243; apart. This is so you can add a 1/2&#8243; piece of drywall or backerboard to each stud and have the correct measurement for your tile.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2417.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-658" title="Completed tile shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2417-225x300.jpg" alt="Completed tile shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">We&#39;re gonna build this one</p>
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<p>The photo to the right is the niche I am going to walk you through. I chose this particular niche because it illustrates the point about the grout lines. And because I have pictures of it from start to finish. See how the sides and top and bottom of the niche all line up with the grout lines in the rest of the tile? It looks like it belongs there. That&#8217;s what I mean when I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">say</span> type that.</p>
<p>This niche is 13 x 13 x 3 inches. The 13&#8242;s because that is the size of the tile and the 3 because that is the width of the bullnose. You can make the niche as deep as your wall will allow if you chose but(!) if your bullnose is only three inches wide and you choose to make your niche 3 1/2 inches deep (which is usually the amount of space between walls) you will have a 1/2&#8243; sliver of tile on each plane of the niche behind the bullnose &#8211; and that looks like crap! So don&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>Or if you chose to do that please tell everyone &#8220;the FloorElf showed me how to make that! Yeah, I know it looks like crap &#8211; he said it was gonna look like crap &#8211; but I did it anyway.&#8221; I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
<p>One more thing before we start (get on with it already!), this shower is built using the Kerdi membrane and drywall. You can, however, utilize this method with any type of shower you are building.</p>
<p>If you are using simply cement backerboard with a moisture barrier you will need to get Kerdi or one of the aforementioned fancy-ass word waterproofing liquids to make the niche waterproof. You cannot place a moisture barrier behind this and have it be waterproof &#8211; it simply won&#8217;t work. And your rubber ducky may burst into flames and who wants that? So snuff out your rubber ducky and lets get this damn thing built!</p>
<p>You may click on any of the photos below for a full-size version of how horrible my photography skills actually are.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2303.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-663" title="Marking and cutting the opening for a tiled shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2303-225x300.jpg" alt="Marking and cutting the opening for a tiled shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">1. Cutting the opening.</p>
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<p>Photo 1: I have marked and cut out the opening for the niche. To the right of the niche I have installed a vertical row of tile and marked the lines with a level line from the grout joints between those tiles. That&#8217;s the big secret to getting everything lined up.</p>
<p>The opening is cut to the exact size. Notice on the right side of the opening you can barely make out the wall stud? That&#8217;s because there is 1/2&#8243; space between the right side of the opening and the stud. I will install a 1/2&#8243; piece of drywall there to bring the side flush with the opening.</p>
<p>In case you are unfamiliar with it &#8211; the bright orange on the wall is the Schluter Kerdi membrane. It is a thin polyethylene sheet which is installed directly to drywall to waterproof your shower. And its awesome. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2304.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-667" title="Inserting the horizontal framing for a tiled shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2304-225x300.jpg" alt="Inserting the horizontal framing for a tiled shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">2. Inserting the horizontal framing</p>
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<p>Photo 2: Measure the exact distance between the studs. Measure the top and the bottom &#8211; they may be a bit different and these measurements need to be exact. Now add 1/16&#8243; to the measurement and cut a 2&#215;4 that size. One for the top and one for the bottom.</p>
<p>Place the 2&#215;4 between the studs and tap it down with a hammer. Don&#8217;t bang on it like its the last DMV employee you spoke with &#8211; just tap it lightly. You do not want to pound it down too far. If you do you&#8217;re SOL.</p>
<p>If you do happen to pound it down too far you can drive a screw into the top of it and pull it back up. You may want to use the claw on your hammer to get a good grip on it. Do not pry your hammer back like you are attempting to pull the screw out! Just place it on there in the same manner and lift the 2&#215;4 back up.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2306.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-665" title="Top and bottom framing for tiled shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2306-300x225.jpg" alt="Top and bottom framing for tiled shower niche" width="300" height="225" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">3. Tap the 2 x 4&#39;s 1/2&quot; down past the opening</p>
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<p>Photo 3: Tap the 2&#215;4 down 1/2&#8243; past the edge of the opening you&#8217;ve cut out. Exactly 1/2&#8243;. This will allow you to install the 1/2&#8243; drywall or backerboard to bring the top and bottom flush with the opening. Now put two screws into each one. Screw them from the front right through your substrate into the 2&#215;4&#8242;s. You can see that in photo 4 &#8211; two in the top and two in the bottom. This keeps them in place.</p>
<p>If you did not previously frame the sides to the exact width (which I did with this particular niche so it is not shown) you will need to add additional framing to the sides to bring them in 1/2&#8243; from the opening as well. You need every side of the niche 1/2&#8243; away from the opening you&#8217;ve cut out of your wall.</p>
<p>Just screw any additional pieces directly to the side studs. You can use a 2&#215;4 (1 1/2&#8243; wide) a 1&#215;2 (3/4&#8243; wide) or build up 1/2&#8243; and/or 1/4&#8243; plywood strips to whatever you need to get them to the correct spot.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2308.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-669 " title="Sides of niche completed with substrate" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2308-225x300.jpg" alt="Sides of niche completed with substrate" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">4. Inside of niche with substrate installed</p>
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<p>Photo 4: Notice the two screws through the wall into each horizontal framing member?</p>
<p>Cut strips of your drywall or backerboard to the correct dimensions for the inside of the niche. In this case two each of 3 1/2&#8243; by 14&#8243; and 3 1/2&#8243; by 13&#8243;. The 14&#8243; place on the top and bottom and the 13&#8243; on the sides. Screw those directly to the 2&#215;4&#8242;s.</p>
<p>The bottom piece needs to be slightly higher in the back than the front! It needs to slope towards the opening. This is to ensure that water drains correctly out of it. By slightly I mean very &#8211; less than 1/16&#8243; higher in the back than the front. You can just place a small cardboard drywall shim or something similar under the back part of the bottom piece. It cannot be level but you don&#8217;t want the top of your shampoo bottle sticking out of the niche &#8211; knowwhatimean? Just slope it VERY slightly. Just enough for water to drain but not enough for your soap to slide out of it.</p>
<p>If you have installed the niche framing correctly the sides of the niche as well as the top and bottom should all be absolutely flush with the opening you have cut out. If not remove the offending piece and redo it. If it is not flush your niche will not come out correctly. Fix it now &#8211; later is too late.</p>
<p>At this point the top and bottom of your niche should be exactly level with a grout line. If so, well done, move on. If not, well, start over.</p>
<p>Now the final step in framing out your niche will be installing the substrate on the back. If you do not want a 3&#8243; deep niche &#8211; you need to figure out the math yourself. If you do want a 3&#8243; deep niche &#8211; hey, your in luck. I just happen to have photos of one.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2309.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-674" title="Installing a filler piece for the back of the niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2309-225x300.jpg" alt="Installing a filler piece for the back of the niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">5. Installing a filler piece for the back of the niche</p>
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<p>Photo 5: Cut a piece of your substrate about 1/2&#8243; smaller than your niche opening. This is simply a filler piece for the back. You want a 3&#8243; niche and a 2&#215;4 is 3 1/2&#8243; thick. If you place a 1/2&#8243; filler in the back of the niche POOF! &#8211; 3&#8243; niche. (That&#8217;s a good name for a band)</p>
<p>Install this filler piece with thinset. If you have a wall on the other side of this wall you do not want to use nails or screws or your wife is gonna kill you for drilling a screw through grandma&#8217;s eye in the portrait hanging on the other side of that wall. Thinset is less heartache.</p>
<p>This is a perfect example of why you want to have at least a very general idea of your layout and tile sizes before you start any tile installation. Any add-ons you choose to use will usually center around the specific size of the tile to look correct. If you build your niche for 13&#8243; tile and end up with 12&#8243; tile, well, you&#8217;re screwed. It won&#8217;t look right. It will look exactly like what it is &#8211; an afterthought.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2310.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-676  " title="Installing the final back wall piece for your niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2310-225x300.jpg" alt="Installing the final back wall piece for your niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">6. The final piece installed and ready to waterproof. This is not yet waterproof! See Part 2</p>
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<p>Photo 6: Then take the piece you cut out for your original opening and it will now become the back wall of your niche. And it better damn well fit. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  If it doesn&#8217;t, start over. Use thinset on this piece as well.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s it, the basic building of your niche. General rules to take into consideration are:</p>
<p>You usually want to keep your niche the width of one tile. This eliminates any skinny pieces on either side of the niche or strangely placed lines and allows you to line everything up with a grout line. It also eliminates the need for a grout line through the back of your niche to keep the lines consistent.</p>
<p>Keeping the niche the width of one tile is the least important. It is open to interpretation more than the others. If you make it skinnier it may look better. Sometimes a square niche just does not look right and usually looks better in a rectangular shape instead. As long as your top and bottom measurements fall on a grout line you do not need to worry about funny cuts or lines. It&#8217;s your shower &#8211; make your niche however you think it looks best.</p>
<p>You want to make your niche the height of one or two tiles or one tile plus your liner piece or whatever else you&#8217;re placing in the field tile. You want it the height of whatever the space between two horizontal grout lines may be. This eliminates any &#8220;L&#8221; cuts in your tile to accommodate the niche.</p>
<p>Use common sense regarding whatever is on the other side of the wall you plan on installing the niche into. If there is a handball court on the other side of that wall &#8211; pick a different wall. Do the same when placing anything onto that wall. Don&#8217;t drive a 16 penny nail into it to hang a portrait of your gerbil &#8211; you&#8217;ll probably hit tile (or your rubber ducky).</p>
<p>If that particular wall is an outside wall and you live in a cold climate &#8211; choose another wall. You only have essentially 1/2&#8243; of free space (your filler piece) between the back of your niche and the outside wall. You cannot get enough insulation in there to prevent freezing. And your shower will be cold, really cold. And your shampoo will freeze. Really, pick another wall.</p>
<p>If you have a liner or listello or row-on-point going through your shower a niche will usually look better with the top either right below it (as in the photos above) or even with the top of it. Make it look like you actually planned it. <strong>Not like this photo here:</strong></p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG1997.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-679 " title="Incorrectly installed shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG1997-225x300.jpg" alt="Incorrectly installed shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Garbage!</p>
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<p>This is a photo of the shower I tore out and replaced with the one you see at the very top of the page. This is garbage! It was done by someone claiming to be a professional &#8211; bullshit! Click on it &#8211; I dare ya. Partake in the full glory of an improper tile installation. The person that installed this  is what I fondly refer to as a hack. If inflicting serious bodily harm ever becomes legal &#8211; these people are on my list. You just don&#8217;t take someones money and give them shit work and run like a little . . . sorry, I digress. Hacks piss me off.</p>
<p>A lot.</p>
<p>.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2159.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-682 " title="Correct placement of a tiled shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG2159-225x300.jpg" alt="Correct placement of a tiled shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Correct</p>
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<p>I will, however, save all that fun for another post. My point was the overall look of the placement of the niches. It is way too low, it looks like a shelf for a phone with that corner bench. It does not line up (except for the very top) with any grout lines. It is not level, although you cannot see that very well. Basically it looks like someone drunk cut a random hole in the wall, stuck tile to it and called it a niche. It looks out of place &#8211; that&#8217;s what I want you to avoid.</p>
<p>The photo below it is from almost the same angle after it was redone correctly. See the difference? It&#8217;s all in the flow, baby! (Sorry, I had Sammy Davis Jr. going through my head just now &#8211; yeah!) It simply belongs. Very existentialistic, dont&#8217;cha think? (I learned that word in college. Comes in very handy in my day to day life as a tile contractor. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>In my next post I will describe how to waterproof your niche so all your hard work doesn&#8217;t disintegrate in three months. It is currently 2am and I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">am out of beer</span> need to get some sleep. Until next time I would like to leave you with a photo that explains one of the biggest reasons I put my time into this blog to help you guys out. If you&#8217;re squeamish you may want to look away. Have a great night.</p>
<p>I give you: The Incorrect Way to Build a Niche!</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG1999.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-688" title="Incorrectly tiled shower niche" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CIMG1999-225x300.jpg" alt="Incorrectly tiled shower niche" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Now that your niche is ready to waterproof let&#8217;s do that &#8211; you know, since you&#8217;re building a shower and they tend to get moist&#8230;<a title="How to build a shower niche for tile - waterproofing" href="http://floorelf.com/how-to-build-a-niche-for-your-shower-2">Part 2 &#8211; Waterproofing a niche</a>.</p>
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