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		<title>Working with SpectraLOCK Pro Premium Grout</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who reads my blog (and lets be honest &#8211; who doesn&#8217;t?) knows that I am a diehard SpectraLOCK junkie. For those who don&#8217;t know what that is, SpectraLOCK is an epoxy grout made by Laticrete. It is stain-proof, pet-proof, and bullet-proof! (Don&#8217;t try that, it&#8217;ll really piss off the wife&#8230;) If you don&#8217;t know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/spectralock-pro.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-1974 alignleft" title="spectralock-pro" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/spectralock-pro.gif" alt="" width="300" height="76" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SpectralockPP.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1977" title="Spectralock Pro Premium" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SpectralockPP-300x295.jpg" alt="Spectralock Pro Premium" width="240" height="236" /></a>Anyone who reads my blog (and lets be honest &#8211; who doesn&#8217;t?) knows that I am a diehard SpectraLOCK junkie. For those who don&#8217;t know what that is, SpectraLOCK is an epoxy grout made by Laticrete. It is stain-proof, pet-proof, and bullet-proof! (Don&#8217;t try that, it&#8217;ll really piss off the wife&#8230;) If you don&#8217;t know any of that &#8211; you need to read my blog more! <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_snowball.gif' alt=':guedo:' class='wp-smiley' />  So just like everything I love &#8211; it changed.</p>
<p>Laticrete has recently come out with SpectraLOCK Pro Premium grout. A little birdie told me that this will replace the SpectraLOCK pro grout in the near future. Given that, I need to figure out how to use it &#8211; because it works differently than the stuff I&#8217;m used to. The difference in the workability may very well be due to the temperature, humidity, <del>hangover</del> flu bug, or any number of factors on the particular days I was working with it.</p>
<p>But it just doesn&#8217;t feel &#8216;normal&#8217; to me &#8211; you know? It seems like it tightens up (gets stiff) and starts to roll out of the grout joints more quickly than the other stuff did. So, as with any installation product, if it begins to cure faster than you can use it you should just mix up smaller batches. And being the awesome DIY crowd you are &#8211; it&#8217;s probably a good idea for you to know how to do that anyway. So this is the best way I&#8217;ve found to do it.</p>
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<p>A few basics first: SpectraLOCK is sold in different unit sizes. The base unit is called &#8230; wait for it &#8230; a FULL unit! Wait, where you goin&#8217;? This isn&#8217;t complicated like the metric system or anything, stick around. There is also the COMMERCIAL unit, which is what I buy (and you likely will not need) and it contains four full units. There is also the MINI unit &#8211; this is 1/4 of a full unit.</p>
<p>So: 1 commercial unit = 4 full units and 1 full unit = 4 mini units. Now, you can split up whatever you feel comfortable with, I split the full units into mini units. And this is what I&#8217;m about to show you. However, if you feel the need to split them into smaller units, or split the mini units into smaller units you can do that as well, you&#8217;ll just need to change the measurements.</p>
<p>When you break down the components into smaller units you need to do it by weight. I don&#8217;t see why splitting the liquids down by volume would be significantly different &#8211; but I was always told to break them down by weight. So do that. Really.</p>
<p>SpectraLOCK has three components, the part A and part B liquids and the part C powder. The part A is the yellow stuff in the foil bag, part B is the white stuff. Part C powder is in the carton. For this I&#8217;ll be splitting up one full unit so the bags and carton may look larger than what you have &#8211; mine&#8217;s bigger! <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_banana.gif' alt=':dance:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You want to have a scale (scrape off the *ahem* &#8216;illegal substances&#8217;) and some one-quart ziploc baggies (the unused ones). For a full unit you&#8217;ll want to split each liquid into four baggies. Each liquid baggie weighs a different amount! So don&#8217;t just go puttin&#8217; the same amount of everything in all the bags, it won&#8217;t work, you&#8217;ll have 1/2lb. of the white liquid left &#8211; then whaddya gonna do?</p>

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<li>Part A (foil bag) has 5 ounces of liquid in each baggie (4 baggies)</li>
<li>Part B (white liquid) has 5.2 ounces in each baggie (4 baggies)</li>
<li>Part C (powder) has 2.25 pounds in each baggie &#8211; or whatever you choose to dump it into (4 of &#8216;em)</li>
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<p>Just measure out all those components and zip them up. Once you&#8217;re done with that you&#8217;re ready to mix smaller batches in workable sizes. I just measure out the powder as I go along &#8211; I&#8217;m a rebel like that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>AGAIN! If you have smaller units or want smaller batches you&#8217;ll have smaller measurements. You just need to weigh out what you have and split them into equal parts.</p>
<p>The photo above shows one full unit in the back, the two large bags and the carton, and one of the smaller units after I&#8217;ve measured them out, the two small baggies and the cup of powder. The amounts in the baggies and the cup is what you&#8217;ll be working with at one time.</p>
<p>To mix them just get yourself a nice clean container (scrub the <del>beer</del> coffee rings out of it) and add the two liquids together. Just roll up the baggie from the zipper side down until you have no room left to roll (like toothpaste) and snip off the corner of it with scissors. You can then squeeze all the liquid out of it with a minimum of mess.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5583.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1938" title="Snip off the end of the bag" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5583-300x225.jpg" alt="Snip off the end of the bag" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5584.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1939" title="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5584-300x225.jpg" alt="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5586.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1941" title="Snip off the tip" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5586-300x225.jpg" alt="Snip off the tip" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5587.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1942" title="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5587-300x225.jpg" alt="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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<p>Once you get those in there YOU NEED TO MIX THE LIQUID TOGETHER! Do that before adding the powder, or it&#8217;s gonna be one big mess you don&#8217;t wanna deal with &#8211; take my word on that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5595.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1950" title="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5595-e1330137694531-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5596.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1951" title="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5596-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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<p>Once you get your liquids mixed together you can add the powder. Add about 75% of the powder first and mix it all up. Get a nice, smooth consistency, then you can add the rest of the powder. This helps get everything mixed evenly whereas if you dump it all in there and mix it you&#8217;ll spend more time getting an even mixture.</p>
<p>(Jesus, did I just type &#8216;whereas&#8217;??? I need a <del>beer</del> nap&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5588.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1943" title="Add about 75 percent of the powder" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5588-300x225.jpg" alt="Add about 75 percent of the powder" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5590.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1945" title="MIx it up well" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5590-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx it up well" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5591.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-1946" title="Then add the rest of the powder and MIx it up well" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5591-585x438.jpg" alt="Then add the rest of the powder and MIx it up well" width="585" height="438" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Here&#39;s your grout - get to it! Quickly, damnit!</p>
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<p>And that&#8217;s it. It&#8217;s all ready to go. When you grout, fill your grout lines and begin washing the tile in about 10-15 minutes. In another 40 minutes or so you can begin the second wash. I&#8217;ve noticed with the new stuff that you&#8217;ll only have about 35-45 minutes of what I consider &#8216;workable&#8217; time. It&#8217;s not like it turns into a rock after 40 minutes, but it does become considerably more difficult to work with.</p>
<p>If you keep your batches small enough to install in that time frame it won&#8217;t be a problem &#8211; it&#8217;s when you go past the viable working time that it starts becoming difficult.</p>
<p>While I have voiced my displeasure with the new mix in a place or two, after I calmed down and <del>sobered up</del> thought about it I realized that SpectraLOCK is still the easiest epoxy grout on the market to work with. That, coupled with the rock solid (pun intended) color match you get from it, SpectraLOCK will still be my epoxy grout of choice.</p>
<p>I just need to quit being such a hard-headed bastard and learn to work with it a bit differently. One of the key factors in doing that is to keep the mixes in manageable batches. Just take your time, a little extra now will go a long way toward the long-term durability of your tile installation. And it <a title="SpectraLOCK vs Kool-aid" href="http://floorelf.com/spectralock-vs-koolaid">WILL be stain-proof</a>!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some basic information about the new stuff from Laticrete: <a href="http://www.laticrete.com/architects/products/grouts/epoxy_grouts/productid/78.aspx" target="_blank">Laticrete SpectraLOCK Pro Premium</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a chart for coverage to see exactly how much you&#8217;ll need: <a href="http://www.laticrete.com/architects/coverage_calculations.aspx" target="_blank">Laticrete Grout Coverage Calculator</a></p>
<p>As always if you have any questions at all feel free to post them below. I&#8217;ll answer them once I <del>sober up</del> get home from work.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get a LOT of questions from my readers about basic shower construction. I understand that my readers don&#8217;t consider this stuff basic and there&#8217;s no problem with that. The problem is that I end up answering the same questions over and over and over&#8230; So, to save what very little is left of my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I get a LOT of questions from my readers about basic shower construction. I understand that my readers don&#8217;t consider this stuff basic and there&#8217;s no problem with that. The problem is that I end up answering the same questions over and over and over&#8230; So, to save what very little is left of my sanity (which is a number roughly equivalent to absolute zero) I will cover some basic things here so I can simply reply &#8216;read this&#8217;.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been channeled to this page by one of my smart-ass comments please take no offense to it, I&#8217;m here to help. Please understand that I currently have over 3000 comments (questions) on this site which I&#8217;ve answered &#8211; every one of them. I&#8217;m just trying to make your life (mine) easier.  I will continue to answer every question I&#8217;m asked, I&#8217;m just super cool like that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> If, after reading through this, you still have questions feel free to ask them in the comments below.</p>
<p>You can also download my <a title="Shower Waterproofing Manual" href="http://floorelf.com/waterproof-shower">shower waterproofing manual</a> which should answer a lot of questions and cover basic techniques and methods you may be confused about. Go ahead, it&#8217;s free.  So without further ado (doesn&#8217;t even look like a word, does it?) let&#8217;s get on with it. (For all my readers who feel the need to correct me: I KNOW it&#8217;s actually &#8216;adieu&#8217; &#8211; I was being facetious. Thanks. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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<h2>Leaks</h2>
<p>First and foremost &#8211; tile is <strong>not</strong> waterproof. Grout is <strong>not</strong> waterproof. Adding sealer to your tile or stone will <strong>not</strong> make it waterproof. Your shower should be completely waterproof before a box of tile is even opened! No matter which waterproofing method you choose, proper substrate preparation is the only thing that will make your shower waterproof.</p>
<p>If you have a leak in your shower &#8211; stop using it immediately if at all possible. If that is not possible (it&#8217;s your only shower) have the shower repaired &#8211; immediately. If you see water leaking it is likely not nearly as much water as you don&#8217;t see leaking into your wall cavity and structural framing. By the time you &#8216;see&#8217; most leaks the framing is normally already considerably compromised.</p>
<p>No, there is nothing you can put over your tile to make your shower waterproof if you have a leak &#8211; not even sealer. A tile or stone sealer is made to make your tile and grout stain-resistant, not waterproof. It does this by sealing the pores of the tile and stone to slow (NOT STOP) the absorption of liquid and prevent staining. It only means you have more time to clean up the spilled<span style="color: #000000;"> <del>red wine</del></span> cherry kool-aid before it stains anything.</p>
<h2>Substrates</h2>
<p>Drywall is not an acceptable substrate for your shower unless you are using Schluter Kerdi waterproofing membrane &#8211; that&#8217;s it. Cement backerboards are the standard and there are also other products such as waterproofed, gypsum based boards like Denshield and waterproofed, foam-based sheets like wedi or kerdi board.</p>
<p>Cement backerboards are not waterproof. They are water stable, which simply means that they will not swell or disintegrate when exposed to moisture or water &#8211; they won&#8217;t change size. But they are just like your driveway, they will soak in water, hold water, and dry out, just like your driveway when it rains. If using backerboards there needs to be a waterproof membrane utilized as well.</p>
<h2>Membranes</h2>
<p>If you are using a topical waterproofing membrane such as a liquid like redgard or hydroban, or a sheet like kerdi, <strong>do not</strong> use a moisture or vapor barrier behind your substrate. If you have a vapor or moisture barrier behind your substrate <strong>do not</strong> use a topical membrane on the front of it. This combination creates two waterproof barriers with your substrate sandwiched between them. any vapor or moisture trapped between them has absolutely no way to dissipate. This is lovingly referred to as a &#8216;mold sandwich&#8217;. It is not tasty. Use either a moisture or vapor barrier behind your substrate <strong>or</strong> a topical membrane on the face of it. One or the other &#8211; never both.</p>
<p>With that said, if you want to use a topical liquid such as redgard on the seams of your backerboard, after you tape and mud them, you can do so without problems. If your moisture barrier and backerboards are properly installed there is no real reason to do so &#8211; but if it will help you sleep at night go ahead and do it.</p>
<p>If you are using a topical membrane and you have an exterior wall with either plastic facing or kraft paper facing you need to cut slits into that facing before installing your substrate. If you do not it will create the aforementioned mold sandwich. Give moisture or vapor somewhere to dissipate.</p>
<h2>Shower-tub transitions</h2>
<p>There should be a gap between your tub or acrylic shower base and the bottom of your backerboard. If you are using a traditional barrier waterproofing method you do not need to do anything with this gap. Do not fill it with silicone! This will trap moisture running down your barrier and it will have nowhere to go. If you are using a topical method you can fill it with silicone if you want. If you are using liquid you should fill it with silicone. This creates a waterproof plane between your membrane and the tub or base so water or moisture ends up in the drain rather than in your wall.</p>
<p>When you tile you can tile right over that gap. You should not fill this gap with thinset behind the tile &#8211; it will crack due to movement. Your wall and tub or base will expand and contract at different rates &#8211; it will crack any cement-based product you place between the two. This includes thinset as well as grout. You do not need a solid backing behind your tile over this gap &#8211; it should be less than 1&#8243; wide. You shouldn&#8217;t normally be walking on that tile in that particular spot. Yes, it can just hang there.</p>
<h2>Grout</h2>
<p>If your grout is cracking it is due to movement 99.9% of the time. Type &#8216;cracking&#8217; into the search box up there and you&#8217;ll find in-depth explanations for your viewing pleasure.</p>
<p>If you have white, or lighter than normal grout when you&#8217;re finished grouting it may be efflorescence. This is mainly due to minerals in the water being left on the surface of the grout when the water evaporates. It is usually indicative of either incorrectly mixed grout or using too much water while cleaning the grout &#8211; not wringing out your sponge enough. This is normally only on the surface of your grout. Scratch the very top layer of your grout in an inconspicuous spot with your fingernail. If you have the correct, or at least a darker, color beneath the surface that is the likely cause. The easiest, quickest fix, provided it is only the very top layer, is to get some drywall sanding sponges and go over the grout lines very lightly. Just like burnt toast &#8211; scrape it to the color you like.</p>
<h2>Corners and changes-of-plane</h2>
<p>Caulk. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h2>Disagree with me?</h2>
<p>Like any other website I get my fair share of people who disagree with my methods or techniques &#8211; it really doesn&#8217;t bother me. I am more than willing to have a civilized, intelligent conversation about anything tile related. If, however, you simply attack me personally and act like an uncivilized ass I will call you on it &#8211; and not in a nice way. I write this blog in a particular manner, it does not mean that I take my profession lightly &#8211; I most certainly do not. If I wanted to be a pompous bastard I currently have 19 letters I can place after my name &#8211; all tile related. But I&#8217;m not a pompous bastard &#8211; you can just call me Roger. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you are a contractor with a customer who has come here for information and I&#8217;ve told them you&#8217;re wrong &#8211; realize that the extent of my knowledge of that particular project is limited to what I&#8217;m told by your customer. It does not mean that I am &#8216;out to get you&#8217; or anything of the sort. I normally limit my replies to those situations by stating the current TCNA and/or ANSI standards pertaining to what I&#8217;m told. If you disagree &#8211; please let me know in a civil manner, If you&#8217;re correct I&#8217;ll back it up &#8211; I do this everyday, too! If you&#8217;re an asshole about it<a href="http://floorelf.com/tile-faqs/comment-page-3#comment-2775"> expect the same in return</a> &#8211; and please have a thesaurus handy to interpret my reply &#8211; I&#8217;m a very well educated asshole.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for now. I will likely add to this post on a regular basis. If there is anything I&#8217;ve caused confusion with please, for the love of God, let me know. I can change this page since, you know, it&#8217;s my website and all. If you have any questions at all please ask them below &#8211; I&#8217;ll answer, really. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Location of Weep Holes in Tile Installations</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another request from one of my readers, this time concerning weep holes. As you may know I answer every question I&#8217;m asked here on my site when I sober up get home from work. I have tried to explain in the comments section several times where to create weep holes in a tub or shower [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Another request from one of my readers, this time concerning weep holes. As you may know I answer every question I&#8217;m asked here on my site when I <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">sober up</span> get home from work. I have tried to explain in the comments section several times where to create weep holes in a tub or shower (acrylic base) tile installation and now realize it&#8217;s a difficult thing to do with words.</p>
<p>So when Kurt asked me to clarify exactly where they go a stroke of genius hit me! (Yeah, I&#8217;m slow sometimes) I have pictures. Well, not exactly pictures of the weep holes themselves, but I can at least let you know where they are.</p>
<p>When you have a tub which does not have specific spaces for a weep hole you need to &#8216;create&#8217; them in your caulk line. Let me back up here a second and explain what weep holes are and why you need them.</p>
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<p>A weep hole is basically an open space which allows moisture that makes its way behind the tile a space from which to dissipate. This is the spot that moisture can run out. When moisture gets behind your tile it will always end up at the bottom of your wall (tile installation). When it gets there it needs some place to go &#8211; to get out from behind the tile and into the tub or shower basin. That&#8217;s what the weep hole is.</p>
<p>Some tubs, and most acrylic shower basins, have these built into them. There is a spot about 3/4&#8243; long that dips down from the plane of the edge and back up. It&#8217;s a dip in the edge of the tub or shower basin. When equipped with these built-in weep holes &#8211; DO NOT FILL THEM WITH CAULK! Everyone does that &#8211; they are there for a reason and no one seems to know what it is. They are weep holes. If you caulk them in it defeats the purpose of them &#8211; that will seal in the moisture.</p>
<p>If the moisture is sealed in behind the tile it has no place to dissipate and will simply sit there. Beyond that, the level of that moisture will continue to build with every use. The moisture cannot dissipate at the same rate that is gets back there. That&#8217;s gonna lead to a problem. You need weep holes to eliminate the moisture.<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_tub.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1385" title="Weep hole location in for a tub" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_tub-300x225.jpg" alt="Weep hole location in for a tub" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>When you caulk or silicone the change of plane between the tile and tub you should leave an open space &#8211; a space without caulk &#8211; in each side wall about an inch out from the back wall. If you click on that little bitty picture to the right you will see two pretty pink lines on it &#8211; that&#8217;s where those spots are.</p>
<p>Each of these spots are about an inch long (this doesn&#8217;t need to be exact) and contain no grout, caulk or silicone &#8211; they are simply open space. These are your weep holes.</p>
<p>These spaces will allow moisture to dissipate. These do not need to be the lowest spots on the tub. In other words, if your tub is not entirely level and those spots are not the lowest, it doesn&#8217;t matter. The water will end up there and run out &#8211; it is the only space to release the pressure the water will build up. It&#8217;s a whole physics thing and I haven&#8217;t had enough <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi to properly explain it &#8211; but that&#8217;s what happens. And yes, you can put them wherever you want, that&#8217;s simply where I put them.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_shower.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1386" title="Weep hole location in for a shower basin" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/weep_shower-300x225.jpg" alt="Weep hole location in for a shower basin" width="300" height="225" /></a>When you have an acrylic or fiberglass shower basin without built-in weep holes the same technique applies. Depending on how your tile and shower door lay out you may choose to put the weep holes toward the front of the basin, entirely up to you.</p>
<p>If you click the photo of the shower to the right, and ignore the fuzzy toilet seat cover,  you will see the two pretty pink lines in the back as well as pretty blue lines toward the front. That&#8217;s where I put them when I don&#8217;t put them in the back. They sometimes look better toward the front if there is a shower door there &#8211; the frame will make the weep holes less noticeable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it &#8211; longer than I expected but much easier than trying to explain with just words. If you have a question or just need something clarified do not hesitate to let me know! My blog is here to help you and the fact that I do this stuff every day will, at times, blind me to certain basic things. I do a lot of this stuff without even thinking about it and don&#8217;t realize that what is basic to me is not basic to you. If you want a post about a specific subject just let me know in the comment section of any of my posts or shoot me an email at <a href="mailto:Roger@FloorElf.com">Roger@FloorElf.com</a>. Or, you know, send up smoke signals from your dogs back &#8211; he may have just burst into flames again. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There you go Kurt, tell mom you win this one and she owes you a six-pack. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>UPDATE: I finally got off my ass and actually took some photos of weep holes in the silicone bead around a tub. These are what I&#8217;ve described above and can be used in either a tub or a shower base. There is one on each side of the tub towards the front.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5404.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1756" title="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5404-585x438.jpg" alt="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" width="585" height="438" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5405.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1757" title="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub 2" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/CIMG5405-585x438.jpg" alt="Weep hole in silicone sealant around bathtub" width="585" height="438" /></a></p>
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