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		<title>Working with SpectraLOCK Pro Premium Grout</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who reads my blog (and lets be honest &#8211; who doesn&#8217;t?) knows that I am a diehard SpectraLOCK junkie. For those who don&#8217;t know what that is, SpectraLOCK is an epoxy grout made by Laticrete. It is stain-proof, pet-proof, and bullet-proof! (Don&#8217;t try that, it&#8217;ll really piss off the wife&#8230;) If you don&#8217;t know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/spectralock-pro.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-1974 alignleft" title="spectralock-pro" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/spectralock-pro.gif" alt="" width="300" height="76" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SpectralockPP.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1977" title="Spectralock Pro Premium" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SpectralockPP-300x295.jpg" alt="Spectralock Pro Premium" width="240" height="236" /></a>Anyone who reads my blog (and lets be honest &#8211; who doesn&#8217;t?) knows that I am a diehard SpectraLOCK junkie. For those who don&#8217;t know what that is, SpectraLOCK is an epoxy grout made by Laticrete. It is stain-proof, pet-proof, and bullet-proof! (Don&#8217;t try that, it&#8217;ll really piss off the wife&#8230;) If you don&#8217;t know any of that &#8211; you need to read my blog more! <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_snowball.gif' alt=':guedo:' class='wp-smiley' />  So just like everything I love &#8211; it changed.</p>
<p>Laticrete has recently come out with SpectraLOCK Pro Premium grout. A little birdie told me that this will replace the SpectraLOCK pro grout in the near future. Given that, I need to figure out how to use it &#8211; because it works differently than the stuff I&#8217;m used to. The difference in the workability may very well be due to the temperature, humidity, <del>hangover</del> flu bug, or any number of factors on the particular days I was working with it.</p>
<p>But it just doesn&#8217;t feel &#8216;normal&#8217; to me &#8211; you know? It seems like it tightens up (gets stiff) and starts to roll out of the grout joints more quickly than the other stuff did. So, as with any installation product, if it begins to cure faster than you can use it you should just mix up smaller batches. And being the awesome DIY crowd you are &#8211; it&#8217;s probably a good idea for you to know how to do that anyway. So this is the best way I&#8217;ve found to do it.</p>
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<p>A few basics first: SpectraLOCK is sold in different unit sizes. The base unit is called &#8230; wait for it &#8230; a FULL unit! Wait, where you goin&#8217;? This isn&#8217;t complicated like the metric system or anything, stick around. There is also the COMMERCIAL unit, which is what I buy (and you likely will not need) and it contains four full units. There is also the MINI unit &#8211; this is 1/4 of a full unit.</p>
<p>So: 1 commercial unit = 4 full units and 1 full unit = 4 mini units. Now, you can split up whatever you feel comfortable with, I split the full units into mini units. And this is what I&#8217;m about to show you. However, if you feel the need to split them into smaller units, or split the mini units into smaller units you can do that as well, you&#8217;ll just need to change the measurements.</p>
<p>When you break down the components into smaller units you need to do it by weight. I don&#8217;t see why splitting the liquids down by volume would be significantly different &#8211; but I was always told to break them down by weight. So do that. Really.</p>
<p>SpectraLOCK has three components, the part A and part B liquids and the part C powder. The part A is the yellow stuff in the foil bag, part B is the white stuff. Part C powder is in the carton. For this I&#8217;ll be splitting up one full unit so the bags and carton may look larger than what you have &#8211; mine&#8217;s bigger! <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_banana.gif' alt=':dance:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You want to have a scale (scrape off the *ahem* &#8216;illegal substances&#8217;) and some one-quart ziploc baggies (the unused ones). For a full unit you&#8217;ll want to split each liquid into four baggies. Each liquid baggie weighs a different amount! So don&#8217;t just go puttin&#8217; the same amount of everything in all the bags, it won&#8217;t work, you&#8217;ll have 1/2lb. of the white liquid left &#8211; then whaddya gonna do?</p>

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<li>Part A (foil bag) has 5 ounces of liquid in each baggie (4 baggies)</li>
<li>Part B (white liquid) has 5.2 ounces in each baggie (4 baggies)</li>
<li>Part C (powder) has 2.25 pounds in each baggie &#8211; or whatever you choose to dump it into (4 of &#8216;em)</li>
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<p>Just measure out all those components and zip them up. Once you&#8217;re done with that you&#8217;re ready to mix smaller batches in workable sizes. I just measure out the powder as I go along &#8211; I&#8217;m a rebel like that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool2.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>AGAIN! If you have smaller units or want smaller batches you&#8217;ll have smaller measurements. You just need to weigh out what you have and split them into equal parts.</p>
<p>The photo above shows one full unit in the back, the two large bags and the carton, and one of the smaller units after I&#8217;ve measured them out, the two small baggies and the cup of powder. The amounts in the baggies and the cup is what you&#8217;ll be working with at one time.</p>
<p>To mix them just get yourself a nice clean container (scrub the <del>beer</del> coffee rings out of it) and add the two liquids together. Just roll up the baggie from the zipper side down until you have no room left to roll (like toothpaste) and snip off the corner of it with scissors. You can then squeeze all the liquid out of it with a minimum of mess.</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5583.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1938" title="Snip off the end of the bag" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5583-300x225.jpg" alt="Snip off the end of the bag" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5584.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1939" title="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5584-300x225.jpg" alt="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5586.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1941" title="Snip off the tip" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5586-300x225.jpg" alt="Snip off the tip" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5587.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1942" title="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5587-300x225.jpg" alt="Squeeze it out like toothpaste" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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<p>Once you get those in there YOU NEED TO MIX THE LIQUID TOGETHER! Do that before adding the powder, or it&#8217;s gonna be one big mess you don&#8217;t wanna deal with &#8211; take my word on that. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5595.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1950" title="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5595-e1330137694531-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5596.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1951" title="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5596-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx the liquids together before adding powder!" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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<p>Once you get your liquids mixed together you can add the powder. Add about 75% of the powder first and mix it all up. Get a nice, smooth consistency, then you can add the rest of the powder. This helps get everything mixed evenly whereas if you dump it all in there and mix it you&#8217;ll spend more time getting an even mixture.</p>
<p>(Jesus, did I just type &#8216;whereas&#8217;??? I need a <del>beer</del> nap&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5588.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-1943" title="Add about 75 percent of the powder" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5588-300x225.jpg" alt="Add about 75 percent of the powder" width="270" height="203" /></a><a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5590.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-1945" title="MIx it up well" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5590-300x225.jpg" alt="MIx it up well" width="270" height="203" /></a></p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5591.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-1946" title="Then add the rest of the powder and MIx it up well" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/CIMG5591-585x438.jpg" alt="Then add the rest of the powder and MIx it up well" width="585" height="438" /></a>
	<p class="wp-caption-text">Here&#39;s your grout - get to it! Quickly, damnit!</p>
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<p>And that&#8217;s it. It&#8217;s all ready to go. When you grout, fill your grout lines and begin washing the tile in about 10-15 minutes. In another 40 minutes or so you can begin the second wash. I&#8217;ve noticed with the new stuff that you&#8217;ll only have about 35-45 minutes of what I consider &#8216;workable&#8217; time. It&#8217;s not like it turns into a rock after 40 minutes, but it does become considerably more difficult to work with.</p>
<p>If you keep your batches small enough to install in that time frame it won&#8217;t be a problem &#8211; it&#8217;s when you go past the viable working time that it starts becoming difficult.</p>
<p>While I have voiced my displeasure with the new mix in a place or two, after I calmed down and <del>sobered up</del> thought about it I realized that SpectraLOCK is still the easiest epoxy grout on the market to work with. That, coupled with the rock solid (pun intended) color match you get from it, SpectraLOCK will still be my epoxy grout of choice.</p>
<p>I just need to quit being such a hard-headed bastard and learn to work with it a bit differently. One of the key factors in doing that is to keep the mixes in manageable batches. Just take your time, a little extra now will go a long way toward the long-term durability of your tile installation. And it <a title="SpectraLOCK vs Kool-aid" href="http://floorelf.com/spectralock-vs-koolaid">WILL be stain-proof</a>!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some basic information about the new stuff from Laticrete: <a href="http://www.laticrete.com/architects/products/grouts/epoxy_grouts/productid/78.aspx" target="_blank">Laticrete SpectraLOCK Pro Premium</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a chart for coverage to see exactly how much you&#8217;ll need: <a href="http://www.laticrete.com/architects/coverage_calculations.aspx" target="_blank">Laticrete Grout Coverage Calculator</a></p>
<p>As always if you have any questions at all feel free to post them below. I&#8217;ll answer them once I <del>sober up</del> get home from work.</p>
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		<title>Grout Does Not Stabilize Tile</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A common misconception about tile and grout is that grout will somehow assist in stabilizing a tile installation. It does not. Unless you use epoxy grout it will add no significant structural elements at all. So why should I use grout? Grout is, structurally speaking typing, simply there to fill the spaces between tiles. That [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>A common misconception about tile and grout is that grout will somehow assist in stabilizing a tile installation. It does not. Unless you use epoxy grout it will add no significant structural elements at all.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">So why should I use grout?</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;">Grout is, structurally <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">speaking</span> typing, simply there to fill the spaces between tiles. That is an oversimplification, but it describes the grout&#8217;s function. More to the point, it is there to keep other things <em>out</em> of that space. Without grout the possibility of dirt, grime and all sorts of unruly, unwanted things may collect in the spaces between tiles. This may lead to not only unhealthy conditions, but also the chance of damaging your tile while trying to remove those things.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Does epoxy grout help stabilize tile?</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;">If you&#8217;ve read any of my other posts regarding grout you have more than likely seen me state that epoxy is different. This subject is no exception.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Epoxy grout will actually add to the stability of your tile installation &#8211; to an extent. Epoxy will stabilize only the area between the tiles &#8211; the grout lines. It <em>does not</em> stabilize your tile enough to replace proper installation methods. This is not what epoxy grout is intended for.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A couple of reasons for using epoxy grout include the durability, ease of cleaning, and its ability to withstand staining. It is not intended as a product to make a sub-par installation correct. <span id="more-191"></span></p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">How does epoxy help?</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;">To the extent that it does stabilize your tile, it will only do so in the direction of the plane. If you think about tile on a floor epoxy grout will not (to any significant amount) stabilize your tile up and down. If you have a corner of your tile that does not have support beneath it, the tile will still crack eventually. It will take a bit longer because of the epoxy, but it will still crack.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If you have two tiles (not installed on anything) that are held together by epoxy grout between them you can grab each end and bust them over your knee like you would bust a baseball bat  (if you were insane) and they would break apart. You can not pull them away from each other and pull them apart &#8211; ever. That is the direction of the plane.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So although epoxy grout does add some stabilizing features to your tile installation it should not be used in that capacity.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Grout is an integral part of a correct tile installation but not in a structural way. As you plan your installation keep that in mind and treat your grout simply as an aesthetic part of your overall project. It will not assist in stabilizing any part of your tile. You should only be concerned about the color.</p>
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		<title>Proper Setting Materials for Tile</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are three basic materials used to set tile. Mastic Thinset Mortar Epoxy For each installation there is a specific material you should be using. Before you start any tile installation you should ensure that the material you choose is suitable for that application. Mastic Mastic is a latex or solvent based adhesive that cures [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>There are three basic materials used to set tile.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">
<ul>
<li>Mastic</li>
<li>Thinset Mortar</li>
<li>Epoxy</li>
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<p>For each installation there is a specific material you should be using. Before you start any tile installation you should ensure that the material you choose is suitable for that application.</p>
<h3>Mastic</h3>
<p>Mastic is a latex or solvent based adhesive that cures by evaporation. It is sold in airtight containers (buckets) and requires no mixing. It is ready to use immediately. It is suitable only for non-wet applications.</p>
<p>Mastic should never be used for showers or floors! Ever! When mastic gets wet the water will re-emulsify the adhesive base. This means that mastic turns to goo when it gets wet. Goo will not keep your tiles on the wall. Every one of the failed showers that I&#8217;ve ever replaced were installed with mastic.</p>
<p>With that <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">said</span> typed, mastic does have its place. It is &#8220;stickier&#8221; than thinset mortar which is why some prefer to use it &#8211; for everything. It should only be used in non-wet areas such as a backsplash, wainscot, or fireplace. An area that is not consistently exposed to water or moisture. It should also only be used on tiles smaller than 6 inches square.</p>
<p>Think about it like this: mastic is stored in a bucket with a lid on it. This keeps it from being exposed to air which would cause it to cure (dry). If you spread it on your wall and place a 12 X 12 inch tile on it, that&#8217;s just like putting the lid back on the bucket. It will never fully cure. If any moisture gets behind that tile with the mastic it will eventually re-emulsify and lose adhesion. That means is that your tile is going to fall off the wall.</p>
<p>There is also a product called &#8220;premixed thinset adhesive&#8221;. This product is pushed as a suitable material with which to set tile &#8211; it is not. It is only mastic with sand added to it. While sand does help materials from shrinking as it sets, it does not make mastic suitable for showers or floors.<span id="more-94"></span></p>
<h3>Thinset Mortar</h3>
<p>Thinset mortar is what you need to use for shower walls and floors of any type. It is sold in bags and needs to be mixed with water. Sound simple? It is. Referred to as thinset, mud, mortar, or a number of other things, it is a combination of sand, portland cement, lime, and other stuff that makes it the preferred setting material for elves everywhere.</p>
<p>When mixed properly (read the directions, no, really, read the directions) it is stable,  not compromised by water or moisture, and rock solid. Thinset must be mixed with water, allowed to slake, then remixed before use. Slaking refers to letting it set for a specific amount of time to allow the chemicals to interact and become workable.</p>
<p>Thinset cures through a chemical process, not by evaporation. Air is not required for it to set. It will cure in the bottom of a bucket of water, really. This means that no matter the density or type of tile you use it for, it will fully cure. No worries there. The tile will stay where you put it.</p>
<p>Unlike mastic, thinset will not be compromised by water or moisture. If it gets wets the thinset will remain cured and will not be reactivated. It&#8217;s similar to your driveway. The concrete on your driveway was mixed with water but it doesn&#8217;t turn to mush when it rains. It&#8217;s the same stuff.</p>
<p>Thinset mortar will be the correct setting material for nearly every application.</p>
<h3>Epoxy</h3>
<p>Epoxy is a chemical based glue that cures through chemical interaction. It is almost bulletproof and not user-friendly. To be frank, it&#8217;s a pain in the ass. It is usually a two or three part product which, when mixed together, form a very stiff, very thick putty-like substance. When cured it becomes a permanant part of whatever is attached to it. That&#8217;s great on the back of the tile, not so much if you get it on the front. Use with care, it is nearly impossible to get off of anything once it&#8217;s set.</p>
<p>There are not many applications which require the use of epoxy setting materials. Certain exterior applications need it, swimming pools, certain types of stone and glass tiles. While epoxy can be used for any application, only specific jobs actually require it. It&#8217;s expensive. I mean really expensive. If you don&#8217;t need to use it, don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you are unsure whether or not your product or application requires epoxy, just check the manufacturer&#8217;s recommendations. If it is required, they will make sure you know about it. You can also ask me, just leave a question in the comments. I&#8217;ll reply, I&#8217;m a fairly sociable guy when I&#8217;m not crawling around on a floor.</p>
<h3>Which to use</h3>
<p>The general rule of thumb is to use thinset mortar. Unless your specific application requires epoxy, thinset can be used. Anywhere you can use mastic you can use thinset instead. It is more durable, water resistant, and cheaper than mastic anyway. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the only thing mastic is good for is a free bucket.</p>
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