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		<title>Create a Shower Floor for Tile &#8211; Video Post</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I&#8217;m just a tile guy I&#8221;m not usually up on all the new technological crap that has nothing to do with tile, like online video or the &#8216;SlapChop&#8217;.  I&#8217;ve decided that since I spend most of my days in other people&#8217;s showers that I should get out more and learn something else. So naturally, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Since I&#8217;m just a tile guy I&#8221;m not usually up on all the new technological crap that has nothing to do with tile, like online video or the &#8216;SlapChop&#8217;.  I&#8217;ve decided that since I spend most of my days in other people&#8217;s showers that I should get out more and learn something else.</p>
<p>So naturally, since I own kitchen knives, I decided to make a video about a tile subject. So here is my first video, sans sound because in audio I sound like a drunk leprechaun, for my readers. Umm &#8211; that&#8217;s you.</p>
<p>And since I actually have a day job and bills to pay all you get is a time-lapse photography of the creation of a mud deck for a tiled shower floor. But I&#8217;m gonna call it a tile video &#8217;cause Google loves that shit. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif' alt=':whistle:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re old-school like me you can actually read the steps involved in this process starting with <a title="How to create a shower floor" href="http://floorelf.com/how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1">&#8216;How to Create a Shower Floor &#8211; Part 1&#8242;</a> wherein I will dazzle you with bad humor, lousy metaphors, and horrible photography. Oh, and a load of information on how to <strong>properly</strong> fabricate a shower floor for tile. But I know you just read my blog for the bad humor.</p>
<p>If you think my photography skills suck &#8211; wait&#8217;ll you see this. I&#8217;m absolutely certain the damn thing has already started playing even though I told it not to. Computers don&#8217;t listen to me. You can use the controls beneath the movie to start, stop, or FF, REW, all the old-school VCR stuff. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Feel free to leave a comment below. You know, something like &#8216;Hey dumbass, you shoulda bought a SlapChop instead!&#8217; If you want more videos just let me know. Maybe one day, with enough practice, I&#8217;ll be able to make one that doesn&#8217;t look like a three-year-old did it. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>How to Create a Shower Floor &#8211; Part 5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the rest . . . Once you have your entire perimeter done you simply need to pack deck mud into the rest of the base from the perimeter to the drain. Once again &#8211; beat the hell out of it. Seriously, pack it in there really well. The more dense your floor is the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Once you have your entire perimeter done you simply need to pack deck mud into the rest of the base from the perimeter to the drain. Once again &#8211; beat the hell out of it. Seriously, pack it in there really well. The more dense your floor is the better. You need to ensure that the line of the floor is straight from the wall to the drain all the way around without any major humps or dips. It takes time and patience &#8211; use both. This step is critical since this is the substrate your tile will be installed upon.</p>
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<p>Once you get the remainder of the deck mud packed into the shower and have it correctly packed and leveled just let it set for at least 12 hours, 24 would be better. Really, leave it alone. There is something about a freshly packed mud bed that makes people want to pick at it &#8211; it&#8217;s alluring &#8211; and a bit disturbing. But you need to leave it alone. So quit poking at it.</p>
<p>After it sets for about 12 hours you can fine tune it, so to speak, if you need to. Any un-flat spots can be scraped, rubbed, or sanded down to flatten them out. You can use regular sandpaper for this &#8211; really. Just make sure you have a flat surface from the wall to the drain. FLAT &#8211; not level. You want this surface absolutely flat.</p>
<p>If you have not yet done so you can now install your moisture barrier and backerboards. Now that you have a large waterproof box you are ready to install your tile and make it look all pretty. The hard part is finished. As with any proper tile installation the underlying substrates are the most important. Take your time with the preparation, it is imperative. Without proper preparation any tile installation is doomed to fail.</p>
<p>And your dog may burst into flames.</p>
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		<title>How to Create a Shower Floor &#8211; Part 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you’ve made it to the final step. If you have arrived at this portion of the instructions without first reading the rest, start with How to Create a Shower Floor. Go ahead, I’ll be right here when you get back. I’ll just sit back and drink this beer Pepsi while I wait. Okay, now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Well, you’ve made it to the final step. If you have arrived at this portion of the instructions without first reading the rest, start with <a title="How to create a shower floor - part 1" href="../how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1">How to Create a Shower Floor</a>. Go ahead, I’ll be right here when you get back. I’ll just sit back and drink this <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">beer</span> Pepsi while I wait.</p>
<p>Okay, now that we’ve ensured that your shower liner is indeed waterproof and won’t leak into your dining room and carve the Grand Canyon into your basement we’re ready for the final portion. The top mud bed is the surface onto which your shower floor tile is actually installed.</p>
<p>What we will now be doing is fabricating your top mud bed directly over the top of your waterproof liner. The top bed will be 1 1/4″ to 1 1/2″ thick – consistent throughout from the drain to the wall. Since you have a pre-slope beneath your liner (umm, you DO have a pre-slope beneath your liner, right?) you already have the correct slope for drainage. By making a consistent mudbed for your top slope it will follow the slope for the same amount. Know what I mean?</p>
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<p>Here, take a look at this badly created diagram and that may help explain it – and don’t give me any crap about my lack of photoshop skills! You can click on the diagram for the full-size version.</p>
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<p>The top mud bed is what we have left for your shower provided you’ve followed in order. See how the top mud bed is properly sloped toward the drain even though it is a consistent thickness? That’s what I mean.</p>
<p>A couple of notes before we start making a mess. You can install your moisture barrier and backerboard on the walls at this point if you want to. DO NOT put any screws through the liner, stop them above the top of the liner. The top mud bed will hold the bottom in place if you choose to do it like this. Your moisture barrier must go over the top of your pan liner as in the diagram. This ensures that any moisture will run down into the shower rather than into your framing behind your wall.</p>
<p>In my wonderful diagram I have the wall substrate or backerboard installed after the top mud bed is fabricated, you can also do it in this manner. Installing it before, though, assists in getting a level perimeter around the base of your shower since you can draw lines on the wall. It’s up to you.</p>
<p>Determining the thickness of your top mud bed relies mostly upon the amount of vertical movement you have in your drain. You need to make sure that you can unscrew the center portion (this moves the top of the drain up) enough to be level or a hair below the top of your mudbed <em>with tile.</em> The easiest way to determine this is to start at 1 1/4″ – that’s just the thickness I prefer to have if possible.</p>
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	<a href="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/CIMG1786.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-318" title="Weep holes in drain covered with pea gravel" src="http://floorelf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/CIMG1786-150x150.jpg" alt="Weep holes in drain covered with pea gravel" width="150" height="150" /></a>
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<p>You need to place pea gravel, spacers, or something similar around the drain where the weep holes are located. This prevents deck mud from clogging up your weep holes and nullifying all of your hard work. If plugged up the shower cannot properly drain beneath your floor tile and your house will fall down and your dog will burst into flames. Okay, maybe your house won’t collapse, but it won’t be a good thing. Make sure you place something there that prevents clogging of your weep holes.</p>
<p>Place a piece of your floor tile on the base of the drain – on the upper part of the flange – and unscrew the barrel of the drain until you reach 1 1/4 inch. As long as the barrel is still firmly screwed into the flange at this height you have enough to create a 1 1/4″ top mud bed. If the drain falls out before you reach 1 1/4″ (it won’t) – go with 1″.</p>
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<p>Now the fun part – we’re gonna make your lines so you can see what your doing, where you need to be, and make your slope correct and consistent. Get your 2 x 4 (which is actually 3 1/2″ x 1 1/2″ – economy I guess) and set it on top of your drain (Figure 1). Measure from the liner to the top of the 2 x 4. In this photo it is (or close enough to) 4 3/4″.</p>
<p>You then need to make that mark at the same height all the way around the perimeter of your shower walls (figure 2). If you have installed your backerboard you can just make that mark on the wall at a height of 4 3/4″. I use a laser because I’m a big Star Wars fan and that’s how I roll. Get one, they’re great for building showers and annoying small animals. That’s a versatile tool right there!</p>
<p>This may look a bit confusing at first, the 2 x 4 and all, but it will make sense shortly. Or not . . .</p>
<p>Now we need to prepare some more deck mud. Get out your shovel and mixing box. If you need the recipe again it’s here: <a title="How to make deck mud" href="../how-to-make-deck-mud">How to Make Deck Mud</a>. Start with the perimeter of the shower and dump your mud in there. I always start along the back wall of the shower.</p>
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	<p class="wp-caption-text">Figure 5</p>
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<p>Get a good amount of deck mud packed along the walls higher than where you want it to be. Once you have a good amount packed against the wall grab your 2 x 4 and place it flat against the wall. Get your hammer and beat the deck mud down with the 2 x 4 until the top of the 2 x 4 is level with the line you’ve made on the wall or your laser line (figures 3, 4, and 5).</p>
<p>Simply continue to do this around the entire outside perimeter of your shower keeping all the edges level with your line. By utilizing the 2 x 4 with the laser or the drawn line you can be certain that the floor is level all the way around (Figure 6).</p>
<p>Some people have asked me why I have a hole in one of my 2 x 4&#8242;s. It&#8217;s a very detailed explanation &#8211; ready, pay attention &#8211; so I can hang it on a nail when I&#8217;m not using it. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   That&#8217;s all, stop overthinking everything, it&#8217;s a hole in a 2 x 4. You don&#8217;t need a hole in your 2 x 4 unless you have a storage problem.</p>
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<p>In the next post we&#8217;ll finish up your floor, fill in the center and get ready for tile!</p>
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