Comments on: How to Create a Shower Floor – Part 1 http://floorelf.com/how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1 Help with all your tile needs (and extreme jackassery!) Sat, 19 May 2012 20:47:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Roger http://floorelf.com/how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1/comment-page-3#comment-11645 Roger Fri, 18 May 2012 12:52:35 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=200#comment-11645 Tile can be set directly to the bricks if you're not concerned with having a waterproof shower. While the liner waterproofs the entire floor it must run up the sides around the entire perimeter or you may as well forego the liner entirely. A swimming pool will not contain water if it's missing one side. The concrete substrate will not be affected by water - it's concrete. But it WILL absorb water. Think about a driveway when it rains - it darkens because the concrete soaks in water. While some may evaporate from the surface the greatest portion of it is pulled beneath the concrete by gravity and soaks into the ground beneath it. What's beneath your shower? And what is beneath it is not the only concern. An improperly waterproofed shower will allow water into the wall cavity. Even if the studs are metal - they'll rust. And you'll never see it until there's a problem. If you do not contain the water in the shower with a properly installed liner and direct all the water into the drain the water WILL find somewhere else to go. Anywhere but the drain is going to cause problems in one form or another. Take a look at my 'flawed' page for examples of what can happen. I tear these things out weekly. But yeah - you <em>can</em> set the tile right onto the bricks. :D Tile can be set directly to the bricks if you’re not concerned with having a waterproof shower. While the liner waterproofs the entire floor it must run up the sides around the entire perimeter or you may as well forego the liner entirely. A swimming pool will not contain water if it’s missing one side.

The concrete substrate will not be affected by water – it’s concrete. But it WILL absorb water. Think about a driveway when it rains – it darkens because the concrete soaks in water. While some may evaporate from the surface the greatest portion of it is pulled beneath the concrete by gravity and soaks into the ground beneath it. What’s beneath your shower?

And what is beneath it is not the only concern. An improperly waterproofed shower will allow water into the wall cavity. Even if the studs are metal – they’ll rust. And you’ll never see it until there’s a problem. If you do not contain the water in the shower with a properly installed liner and direct all the water into the drain the water WILL find somewhere else to go. Anywhere but the drain is going to cause problems in one form or another. Take a look at my ‘flawed’ page for examples of what can happen. I tear these things out weekly.

But yeah – you can set the tile right onto the bricks. :D

]]> By: elf buddy http://floorelf.com/how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1/comment-page-3#comment-11644 elf buddy Fri, 18 May 2012 07:29:43 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=200#comment-11644 just like the wood one. ok. cool. but how come tiles cannot be set right onto the bricks. is that much water actually seeping thru grout lines, solid concrete bricks and thru a concrete floor. i can see for a wood home but a concrete highrise...seems overly safe. at any rate, thanx for the info just like the wood one. ok. cool.
but how come tiles cannot be set right onto the bricks. is that much water actually seeping thru grout lines, solid concrete bricks and thru a concrete floor. i can see for a wood home but a concrete highrise…seems overly safe.
at any rate, thanx for the info

]]> By: Roger http://floorelf.com/how-to-create-a-shower-floor-part-1/comment-page-3#comment-11638 Roger Fri, 18 May 2012 00:36:14 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=200#comment-11638 The liner is run up and over the bricks then a piece of metal lath shaped like a 'U' is placed over it to hold the liner in place. Wet mud is then installed to the lath, then tile bonded directly to that. The liner is run up and over the bricks then a piece of metal lath shaped like a ‘U’ is placed over it to hold the liner in place. Wet mud is then installed to the lath, then tile bonded directly to that.

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