Comments on: Flawed http://floorelf.com Help with all your tile needs (and extreme jackassery!) Sat, 19 May 2012 20:47:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Roger http://floorelf.com/flawed/comment-page-3#comment-11457 Roger Wed, 09 May 2012 03:54:56 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?page_id=916#comment-11457 Excellent choice Danielle. I know it sucks, but better that than have serious problems down the line. Most often the damage you can see on the surface isn't nearly as bad as what you can't see. Thanks! I stole all those pictures off the internet! :D Just kidding - I actually do install every day. :D Excellent choice Danielle. I know it sucks, but better that than have serious problems down the line. Most often the damage you can see on the surface isn’t nearly as bad as what you can’t see.

Thanks! I stole all those pictures off the internet! :D

Just kidding – I actually do install every day. :D

]]> By: Danielle http://floorelf.com/flawed/comment-page-3#comment-11447 Danielle Wed, 09 May 2012 01:00:45 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?page_id=916#comment-11447 I just came back to the world of the living after an insane bout with the flu, I had them re grout it in the mean time because I was home anyway. I agree with you, we will wait until this grout begins to crack (approx 1-3 months if it continues to do what it has up to this point) and then we are yanking the entire shower and having someone else come in to re-tile. The "soap boxes" or boxes to put razors like you have in one of your above pictures is starting to do the same thing so at this point I think it's safe to say we hate this shower and we are concerned if the work that you can see is this shoddy then what does it look like beneath the tile? Loved the tile work on your Tile Art website by the way. I just came back to the world of the living after an insane bout with the flu, I had them re grout it in the mean time because I was home anyway. I agree with you, we will wait until this grout begins to crack (approx 1-3 months if it continues to do what it has up to this point) and then we are yanking the entire shower and having someone else come in to re-tile. The “soap boxes” or boxes to put razors like you have in one of your above pictures is starting to do the same thing so at this point I think it’s safe to say we hate this shower and we are concerned if the work that you can see is this shoddy then what does it look like beneath the tile? Loved the tile work on your Tile Art website by the way.

]]> By: Roger http://floorelf.com/flawed/comment-page-3#comment-11426 Roger Tue, 08 May 2012 01:06:26 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?page_id=916#comment-11426 Hi Danielle, That has to be one of the worst lines of horseshit I've heard! Silicone DOES NOT wash out of anything. GROUT WILL NOT LAST! That's why it's cracking. He can do it a couple more times or a thousand more times, the end result will be cracked grout. Don't know what he is referring to when he says flex grout, but being grout I doubt it would 'wash' out of anything either. If Latasil washed out I seriously doubt that the largest tile installation manufacturers would sell it as their preferred sealant for showers and wet areas, eh? 100% silicone is difficult to work with and get a clean bead if you don't know what you're doing - that's the only downside of it. If you could get him to agree to work with it I doubt he would do it well - it takes experience. It sounds like there is no reason he would have that. I think you're right - they'll just keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. That, by the way, was Einstein's definition of insanity - I tend to agree. They'll do that until your warranty runs out. IF(!) everything else in your shower has no problems I would just hire someone else to silicone it. Better yet - let them regrout it, then turn around and hire someone else to dig it out and silicone it without telling them. Then if you have any issues with your shower they're still on the hook for the warranty. If there's ever a problem they can't blame it on the silicone - it is correct by written TCNA standards. That would be my choice. It doesn't look like you'll get anywhere with them and they are obviously not familiar with the entire range of correct standards. Hi Danielle,

That has to be one of the worst lines of horseshit I’ve heard! Silicone DOES NOT wash out of anything. GROUT WILL NOT LAST! That’s why it’s cracking. He can do it a couple more times or a thousand more times, the end result will be cracked grout. Don’t know what he is referring to when he says flex grout, but being grout I doubt it would ‘wash’ out of anything either.

If Latasil washed out I seriously doubt that the largest tile installation manufacturers would sell it as their preferred sealant for showers and wet areas, eh? 100% silicone is difficult to work with and get a clean bead if you don’t know what you’re doing – that’s the only downside of it. If you could get him to agree to work with it I doubt he would do it well – it takes experience. It sounds like there is no reason he would have that.

I think you’re right – they’ll just keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. That, by the way, was Einstein’s definition of insanity – I tend to agree. They’ll do that until your warranty runs out. IF(!) everything else in your shower has no problems I would just hire someone else to silicone it.

Better yet – let them regrout it, then turn around and hire someone else to dig it out and silicone it without telling them. Then if you have any issues with your shower they’re still on the hook for the warranty. If there’s ever a problem they can’t blame it on the silicone – it is correct by written TCNA standards. That would be my choice. It doesn’t look like you’ll get anywhere with them and they are obviously not familiar with the entire range of correct standards.

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