Comments on: Filling Grout Lines with More Grout http://floorelf.com/filling-grout-lines-with-more-grout Help with all your tile needs (and extreme jackassery!) Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:37:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Viola DiLeo http://floorelf.com/filling-grout-lines-with-more-grout/comment-page-3#comment-8120 Viola DiLeo Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:34:18 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=129#comment-8120 I just had a new porcelain tile laid in my kitchen.  I've had the tile man back because some tiles were raised some not (an up and down effect).  I also told him there didn't appear to be enough tile because 99% of the tiles are not flush with the grout.  He only fixed the up and down tiles but I have a large floor and he said to replace all the grout would be a huge job.  Now I have dirt traps because the grout is not flush with the tile.  In reading some of the other people's experiences I can't add grout to what I have.  I haven't put the sealant on yet because it's not been 72 hours.  Is there an easy fix here?  Where there's no sealant and I do still have tile for grout to adhere to, can I grout on top of the newly laid grout? I just had a new porcelain tile laid in my kitchen.  I’ve had the tile man back because some tiles were raised some not (an up and down effect).  I also told him there didn’t appear to be enough tile because 99% of the tiles are not flush with the grout.  He only fixed the up and down tiles but I have a large floor and he said to replace all the grout would be a huge job.  Now I have dirt traps because the grout is not flush with the tile.  In reading some of the other people’s experiences I can’t add grout to what I have.  I haven’t put the sealant on yet because it’s not been 72 hours.  Is there an easy fix here?  Where there’s no sealant and I do still have tile for grout to adhere to, can I grout on top of the newly laid grout?

]]> By: Roger http://floorelf.com/filling-grout-lines-with-more-grout/comment-page-3#comment-8072 Roger Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:44:47 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=129#comment-8072 Hey Matt, If it's TEC Invision grout you're actually fine, as strange as that may sound. :D The reason I say that is that Invision is a urethane-based grout with which you can actually go over what you have there to fill the grout lines, without scraping any out, and it will bond just fine. The trick to that stuff is to grout about six square feet and wipe it off, don't let it set. You won't hurt that grout at all by cleaning it immediately. Just go over it in the morning and fill all those grout lines. If you can't get all the haze off you need some 'Banish' which is a latex haze remover made by TEC. You can find it here: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/TEC-Specialty-33-0615-5411-Concentrated-Remover/dp/B000BPLXCS" rel="nofollow">Banish grout haze remover</a> Hey Matt,

If it’s TEC Invision grout you’re actually fine, as strange as that may sound. :D The reason I say that is that Invision is a urethane-based grout with which you can actually go over what you have there to fill the grout lines, without scraping any out, and it will bond just fine. The trick to that stuff is to grout about six square feet and wipe it off, don’t let it set. You won’t hurt that grout at all by cleaning it immediately. Just go over it in the morning and fill all those grout lines.

If you can’t get all the haze off you need some ‘Banish’ which is a latex haze remover made by TEC. You can find it here: Banish grout haze remover

]]> By: Matt http://floorelf.com/filling-grout-lines-with-more-grout/comment-page-3#comment-8071 Matt Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:37:13 +0000 http://floorelf.com/?p=129#comment-8071 I'm pretty disgusted with myself right now. I thought grouting was going to be easy, heres what happened. I bought 1/2 gal. of the already mixed grout in a 1/2 gallon bucket made by TEC. Applying the grout with a float started OK but removing and cleaning the tile as I progressed is where I had trouble. The grout didn't wipe off with a damp sponge like I expected. I turned creamy and smeared all over the tile. At first I thought this was normal and thought I could clean it off later. As I got to the end of the job (approx.75 sq. feet) I realized the grout left on the tile is setting up quick and not wiping off easily. I began to panic and pretty much aborted the grout job and went into "save the tile mode". The directions on the bucket said not to use too much water while cleaning because it may lead to the grout cracking later. I found I didn't have a choice. I soaked the tile pretty good trying to make the grout wipe off easier and spent the next two hours scrubbing with a sponge and a little scrub brush to make the tile look as it did before I grouted. The tiles have a haze to them and the grout got in all the nooks and crannys. I kept filling the bucket with clean water to take the haze away. It's drying now, and the jourey is out on what it's going to look like in the morning! I know in my haste to clean the tiles I removed too much grout , I'm guessing 1/16 to an 1/8" shallow grout lines. From what I just read above that means I need to remove 2/3 of the depth of the tile and grout again. In a nutshell THAT SUCKS!!!!!! Can you tell me where I went wrong and is the prognosis to regrout the whole floor? I’m pretty disgusted with myself right now. I thought grouting was going to be easy, heres what happened. I bought 1/2 gal. of the already mixed grout in a 1/2 gallon bucket made by TEC. Applying the grout with a float started OK but removing and cleaning the tile as I progressed is where I had trouble. The grout didn’t wipe off with a damp sponge like I expected. I turned creamy and smeared all over the tile. At first I thought this was normal and thought I could clean it off later. As I got to the end of the job (approx.75 sq. feet) I realized the grout left on the tile is setting up quick and not wiping off easily. I began to panic and pretty much aborted the grout job and went into “save the tile mode”. The directions on the bucket said not to use too much water while cleaning because it may lead to the grout cracking later. I found I didn’t have a choice. I soaked the tile pretty good trying to make the grout wipe off easier and spent the next two hours scrubbing with a sponge and a little scrub brush to make the tile look as it did before I grouted. The tiles have a haze to them and the grout got in all the nooks and crannys. I kept filling the bucket with clean water to take the haze away. It’s drying now, and the jourey is out on what it’s going to look like in the morning! I know in my haste to clean the tiles I removed too much grout , I’m guessing 1/16 to an 1/8″ shallow grout lines. From what I just read above that means I need to remove 2/3 of the depth of the tile and grout again. In a nutshell THAT SUCKS!!!!!! Can you tell me where I went wrong and is the prognosis to regrout the whole floor?

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