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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Diana,

It depends on what you mean by building a shower floor. There are a number of ways that can be done. If he is talking about a pvc or cpe liner with deck mud on top of it - no, it won&#039;t work. Is your deck currently sloped? If he can install deck mud and slope it toward the drain then use Laticrete Hydroban over the top of it - it would work, but is not necessarily the correct manner. 

To have a proper deck build there needs to be a 1/4&quot; / foot slope to an open end or out-vent (an open channel going through one of your curbs) to drain water. But a liquid topical membrane would work, I just don&#039;t know about the long-term durability concerning any other aspects of the deck, like where it meets the house and any flashing necessities there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Diana,</p>
<p>It depends on what you mean by building a shower floor. There are a number of ways that can be done. If he is talking about a pvc or cpe liner with deck mud on top of it &#8211; no, it won&#8217;t work. Is your deck currently sloped? If he can install deck mud and slope it toward the drain then use Laticrete Hydroban over the top of it &#8211; it would work, but is not necessarily the correct manner. </p>
<p>To have a proper deck build there needs to be a 1/4&#8243; / foot slope to an open end or out-vent (an open channel going through one of your curbs) to drain water. But a liquid topical membrane would work, I just don&#8217;t know about the long-term durability concerning any other aspects of the deck, like where it meets the house and any flashing necessities there.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I really enjoyed reading your shower floor instructions. And sense of humor ;). I have an out door deck totally exposed to the elements.  The floor of the deck is at the same level as the indoor floor (for awful reasons I don&#039;t want to go into now).   But the contractor wants to waterproof this deck by using the same techniques for a shower color.  We have had numerous water problems.  The deck area measures ten by twenty feet with a curb on 3 sides and stucco wall on the 4th side.  There is about 1.5 inches of height at the furthest point from the drain. This drain is 20 ft away. 

Would building a &#039;shower&#039; floor work?  

Diana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I really enjoyed reading your shower floor instructions. And sense of humor <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink2.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I have an out door deck totally exposed to the elements.  The floor of the deck is at the same level as the indoor floor (for awful reasons I don&#8217;t want to go into now).   But the contractor wants to waterproof this deck by using the same techniques for a shower color.  We have had numerous water problems.  The deck area measures ten by twenty feet with a curb on 3 sides and stucco wall on the 4th side.  There is about 1.5 inches of height at the furthest point from the drain. This drain is 20 ft away. </p>
<p>Would building a &#8216;shower&#8217; floor work?  </p>
<p>Diana</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kimberly,

You&#039;ll need to look at a couple of different aspects of any tile you&#039;re choosing and use the applicable numbers to determine whether or not it&#039;s suited to your little mini-zoo. :D I would suggest looking at different porcelains, a class III porcelain tile would be the way to go. The aspects of any porcelain you find that you need to pay attention to are the Mohs hardness and the COF number. You can read through my post about &lt;a href=&quot;http://floorelf.com/which-tile-to-choose&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;choosing the correct tile&lt;/a&gt; for an explanation of COF. 

The Mohs scale is a bit trickier, the exact number doesn&#039;t always translate to what you are looking for so it will be more relative to the overall aspects of the tile. In other words it would be the least exacting factor on which to base your decision. Mohs scales go from one to ten - the higher the number the harder the surface. Look for a porcelain around 6.8 - 7.0. A high mohs number coupled with a good COF should give you a very durable porcelain which may outlast the noisy bird. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kimberly,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need to look at a couple of different aspects of any tile you&#8217;re choosing and use the applicable numbers to determine whether or not it&#8217;s suited to your little mini-zoo. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I would suggest looking at different porcelains, a class III porcelain tile would be the way to go. The aspects of any porcelain you find that you need to pay attention to are the Mohs hardness and the COF number. You can read through my post about <a href="http://floorelf.com/which-tile-to-choose" rel="nofollow">choosing the correct tile</a> for an explanation of COF. </p>
<p>The Mohs scale is a bit trickier, the exact number doesn&#8217;t always translate to what you are looking for so it will be more relative to the overall aspects of the tile. In other words it would be the least exacting factor on which to base your decision. Mohs scales go from one to ten &#8211; the higher the number the harder the surface. Look for a porcelain around 6.8 &#8211; 7.0. A high mohs number coupled with a good COF should give you a very durable porcelain which may outlast the noisy bird. <img src='http://floorelf.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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